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Re: Vazduhoplovi

Post od BAJKER » 27 Maj 2017, 01:06

Kada je lepo vreme a u mogucnosti sam, cesto sa terase dvogledom promatram avione. Sasvim lepo se vide sa 10x uvecanjem.
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Post od Cica Maca » 27 Maj 2017, 12:00

http://www.teleskop.rs/

Sve vezano za teleskope i astrofotografiju.
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Re: Vazduhoplovi

Post od maxer » 29 Maj 2017, 09:31

Rusi poleteli ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7txungWU4o

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Re: Vazduhoplovi

Post od BAJKER » 29 Maj 2017, 20:35

A evo kako nastaje...superjet 100
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy0RRDV3Cw4
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Post od Cica Maca » 29 Maj 2017, 20:57

Cuj kako nastaje??? Pa bre odavno leti!!!
Uhvatio jos pre dve godine prvi prototip ispred Mjasiscevog eksperimentalnog zavoda na Zukovskom.

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Post od HKS » 29 Maj 2017, 21:00

Nije nesto uspijesan, u smislu prodaje ili grijesim?

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Post od Cica Maca » 29 Maj 2017, 21:13

Hade ovako, ja necu nista da kazem. Neka ovaj put wiki sve kaze.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Superjet_100
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Post od snork » 29 Maj 2017, 21:53

Opaa, u pozadini Tu-144LL. :o Drago mi je što je u životu, a nadam se i u letnom stanju.
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Post od Cica Maca » 29 Maj 2017, 22:18

RA-77114 je u losijem stanju od RA-77115 u koji je bio dozvoljen ulaz pre dve godine (u pitanju je takodje 144D verzija sa motorom Kolesov RD-36-51, jedan od 5 napravljenih, sesti, 77116, nije nikada dovrsen). Oba bi trebalo da budu sacuvana. LL ce verovatno zavrsiti na postolju ispred ulaza u institut Gromov na Zukovskom, dok ce 77115 verovatno praviti guzvu i na ovogodisnjem Maksu. Verovatno ce kasnije biti negde odvucen i postace eksponat. Previse su to skupe i komplikovane masine da se ponovo dovode u letno stanje i koriste, makar i za bogate magarce.

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Post od snork » 30 Maj 2017, 23:14

Da li su iz LL-a izvađeni Kuznjecov NK-321 motori? Jel znaš možda, zašto su njih stavljali, koliko brzo je LL leteo i šta su ovi iz NASA-e uopšte merili? Znam samo da je bila frka zbog tih motora, pošto su iz Tu-160 bombardera, a nisu hteli da ih Ameri mnogo zagledaju. :)

Pomalo podseća na situaciju kad je formiran CFM konzorcijum, GE je trebao da da "vrući deo", koji je bio razvijen za B-1 bombarder, a SNECMA "hladni deo" i da ih sastavi, ali da ne čačka previše po onome što im daju Ameri. :D Mada je to bila smešna situacija, zašto kupac (npr. JAT :) ) ne bi mogao da rastavi ceo motor i analizira kako je napravljen? Ili je to već bila dobro poznata tehnologija u trenutku kada je počela da se ugrađuje u putničke avione?

Da, CCCP-77115 je onaj na Žukovskom (tj. muzeju Monino) u koji može i da se uđe. Imam želju da posetim Moskvu i taj muzej, ali godinama nikako da se organizujem (kad sam imao novca, nisam imao vremena, i obrnuto).

Nađoh na disku ovu sliku sa CCCP-77112, ali ne znam koja je lokacija. Verovatno muzej u nekom drugom gradu:

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I jedna iz vremena dok su prevozili putnike: CCCP-77110. Da li je to D ili S?

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Post od Cica Maca » 31 Maj 2017, 00:29

U Moninu je SSSR-77106, dakle S, kao i 77110. 77110 je poslednji S. U Zukovskom su oba, i 114 i 115. 114 LL je stajao ispred Mjasiscevog eksperimentalnog zavoda i bio prilicno zapusten, nije moglo da se pridje i vidi sta je s motorima. 115 ce verovatno zavrsiti negde na postolju. Mislim da i 106 ima stepenice na vratima ali nisam siguran u proceduru ulaska. Mogu samo da obecam da cu da ga lepo ispucam ako bude lepo vreme ove godine, 2015 nas je ubila kisa, nista skoro nismo videli.

Ovo je copy paste sa wikija:

Aircraft on displayEdit

While several Tu-144s were donated to museums in Moscow Monino, Samara and Ulyanovsk, at least two Tu-144D remained in open storage in Moscow Zhukovsky.

As of June 2010, two aircraft are located outdoors at LII aircraft testing facility, Zhukovsky (at coordinates 55.569786°N 38.155652°E and 55.571776°N 38.152304°E). Previously, they were constantly on display at MAKS Airshows.

Tu-144S, tail number 77106, is on display at Central Air Force Museum of Russia in Monino. Maiden flight was on 4 March 1975, the final one on 29 February 1980. The plane was used to assess the effectiveness of the air-conditioning systems and to solve some problems on the fuel system. It can be considered the first production aircraft, being the first to be equipped for commercial use and delivered to Aeroflot. The first operational flight was on 26 December 1975 between Moscow and Alma-Ata carrying cargo and mail. This aircraft was the first SST to land on a dirty runway when she was retired to Monino [2].



Tu-144 at Sinsheim, side view.

Another Tu-144, tail number 77107, is on open display in Kazan. The plane was constructed in 1975 and was a production model intended for passenger use. However, it was only used during test flights. On 29 March 1976 it made its last flight to Kazan. This plane was put on sale on eBay in 2017.[63][64]

TU-144S, tail number 77108, is on display in the museum of Samara State Aerospace University. It made its maiden flight on 12 December 1975, and its final flight on 27 August 1987. Development works on navigation system were made in this aircraft as well as flight-director approach. [3]

TU-144S, tail number 77110, is on display at the Museum of Civil Aviation in Ulyanovsk. Maiden flight occurred on 14 February 1977, the final Flight on 1 June 1984. This aircraft was the second of the two planes used for regular passengers' flights on Moscow - Alma-Ata route. In 1977 it flew to Paris to take part in the XXXII Paris Air Show at Le Bourget Airport. This was the last appearance of a Tu-144 in West Europe. CCCP-77110 was the last plane produced of the model Tu-144S, powered with Kuznetsov NK-144A engines. In the first half of 2008 the cabin was open for visits and between August and September was restored and painted in the original Aeroflot livery [4].



Panoramic rear view - TU-144 at Sinsheim Museum

The only Tu-144, tail number 77112, on display outside the former Soviet Union was acquired by the Auto & Technikmuseum Sinsheim in Germany, where it was shipped – not flown – in 2001 and where it now stands, in its original Aeroflot livery, on display next to an Air France Concorde.[65]


Sta je NASA radila sa RA-77114, sve lepo ozvaniceno na adresi:
https://www.nasa.gov/centers/armstrong/ ... -DFRC.html

Inace, NK-32 moze da ima jako kratak resurs, ubacuje se borna kiselina u komoru sagorevanja na preko 13000m zbog smanjenja IC i radarskog odraza tako da motor crkava posle samo par desetina sati rada. Jako su specificni i ne bih bio zacudjen da su skinuti i da su u rezervi. JAT i turbofen sa forsazem, ha, ha, ha! Pa ovi novi koji su dosli nisu u stanju ni konzervu mesnog nareska da otvore a kamo li da i posle 6 meseci obuke i licenciranja prcaju po necem takvom. Dovoljan im je mobilni i lap top!

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Re: Vazduhoplovi

Post od maxer » 01 Jun 2017, 09:16

NAJVEĆI AVION NA SVETU
Pitam se: zar nije bilo logično/bezbednije da budu povezane i repne površine, baš kao Lockheed P 38 Lightning?

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CNN's Matt McFarland, Thom Patterson and Jackie Wattles contributed to this report.
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/31/us/wo ... index.html

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Post od aviator » 01 Jun 2017, 09:59

Vidi se "iz aviona", da je Rutan ovde umešao svoje prste. Uvek drugačije.

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Post od Cica Maca » 01 Jun 2017, 13:03

Ima logike sto se tice repnih povrsina. Sta je sa dugackim teretima? A i nije ni prvi vazduplohov sa takvim repom, prepisuju murikanci!!!

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Re: Vazduhoplovi

Post od BAJKER » 01 Jun 2017, 18:45

Iskopace ga Cica Maca, nema zbora. :kezo:
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