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Svetska zavera ili jedan sasvim običan dan...
Re: Svetska zavera ili jedan sasvim običan dan...
Da se vratimo na temu: 
Ne daje baš odgovore na pitanje šta se dešavalo na Mesecu, ali lepo je što je NASA skenirala i objavila neka dokumenta. Pažnja, pdf-ovi su veliki, neki imaju i preko 100 MB. Izvor ove "zbirne" strane je: http://sci.space.history.narkive.com/hI ... properties
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Saturn 5 flight manual SA-503
NASA Center for AeroSpace Information (CASI)
NASA-TM-X-72151; MSFC-MAN-503-REV , 19681101; Nov 1, 1968
Accession ID: 75N70137
Document ID: 19750063889
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi. ... 063889.pdf
Ovaj imam na disku (skinuo pre 12 godina), ali NASA je u međuvremenu uklonila link. Dokument dostupan ovde: http://users.monash.edu.au/~ralphk/satu ... 063889.pdf
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Saturn 5 flight manual SA 507
NASA Center for AeroSpace Information (CASI)
NASA-TM-80026; A02630-1; MSFC-MAN-507 , 19690815; Aug 15, 1969
Accession ID: 79N73692
Document ID: 19790074184
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi. ... 074184.pdf
NASA je u međuvremenu uklonila link, ne znam gde ima da se skine.
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Saturn 5 launch vehicle, flight evaluation report AS-503, Apollo 8 mission
NASA Center for AeroSpace Information (CASI)
NASA-TM-X-61651; MPR-SAT-FE-69-1 , 19690220; Feb 20, 1969
Engineering flight evaluation results for Saturn 5 launch vehicle AS
503/Apollo 8 mission
Accession ID: 69N24692
Document ID: 19690015314
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi. ... 015314.pdf
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Saturn 5 launch vehicle flight evaluation report: AS-506 Apollo 11 mission
NASA Center for AeroSpace Information (CASI)
NASA-TM-X-62558; MPR-SAT-FE-69-9; NAS 1.15:X-62558 , 19690920; Sep 20,
1969
Accession ID: 90N70431
Document ID: 19900066485
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi. ... 066485.pdf
I ovaj je uklonjen.
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Apollo/Saturn 5 consolidated instrumentation plan for AS-512 Apollo 17
NASA Center for AeroSpace Information (CASI)
NASA-TM-X-66835; K-V-059/12 , 19721018; Oct 18, 1972
Accession ID: 75N74061
Document ID: 19750067813
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi. ... 025089.pdf
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Skylab Saturn 1B flight manual
NASA Center for AeroSpace Information (CASI)
NASA-TM-X-70137; MSFC-MAN-206 , 19720930; Sep 30, 1972
A Saturn 1B Flight Manual provides launch vehicle systems descriptions
and predicted performance data for the Skylab missions. Vehicle SL-2
(SA-206) is the baseline for this manual; but, as a result of the great
similarity, the material is representative of SL-3 and SL-4 launch
vehicles, also. The Flight Manual is not a control document but is
intended primarily as an aid to astronauts who are training for Skylab
missions. In order to provide a comprehensive reference for that
purpose, the manual also contains descriptions of the ground support
interfaces, prelaunch operations, and emergency procedures. Mission
variables and constraints are summarized, and mission control
monitoring and data flow during launch preparation and flight are
discussed.
Accession ID: 74N29276
Document ID: 19740021163
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi. ... 021163.pdf
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Ne daje baš odgovore na pitanje šta se dešavalo na Mesecu, ali lepo je što je NASA skenirala i objavila neka dokumenta. Pažnja, pdf-ovi su veliki, neki imaju i preko 100 MB. Izvor ove "zbirne" strane je: http://sci.space.history.narkive.com/hI ... properties----------
Saturn 5 flight manual SA-503
NASA Center for AeroSpace Information (CASI)
NASA-TM-X-72151; MSFC-MAN-503-REV , 19681101; Nov 1, 1968
Accession ID: 75N70137
Document ID: 19750063889
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi. ... 063889.pdf
Ovaj imam na disku (skinuo pre 12 godina), ali NASA je u međuvremenu uklonila link. Dokument dostupan ovde: http://users.monash.edu.au/~ralphk/satu ... 063889.pdf
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Saturn 5 flight manual SA 507
NASA Center for AeroSpace Information (CASI)
NASA-TM-80026; A02630-1; MSFC-MAN-507 , 19690815; Aug 15, 1969
Accession ID: 79N73692
Document ID: 19790074184
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi. ... 074184.pdf
NASA je u međuvremenu uklonila link, ne znam gde ima da se skine.
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Saturn 5 launch vehicle, flight evaluation report AS-503, Apollo 8 mission
NASA Center for AeroSpace Information (CASI)
NASA-TM-X-61651; MPR-SAT-FE-69-1 , 19690220; Feb 20, 1969
Engineering flight evaluation results for Saturn 5 launch vehicle AS
503/Apollo 8 mission
Accession ID: 69N24692
Document ID: 19690015314
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi. ... 015314.pdf
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Saturn 5 launch vehicle flight evaluation report: AS-506 Apollo 11 mission
NASA Center for AeroSpace Information (CASI)
NASA-TM-X-62558; MPR-SAT-FE-69-9; NAS 1.15:X-62558 , 19690920; Sep 20,
1969
Accession ID: 90N70431
Document ID: 19900066485
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi. ... 066485.pdf
I ovaj je uklonjen.
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Apollo/Saturn 5 consolidated instrumentation plan for AS-512 Apollo 17
NASA Center for AeroSpace Information (CASI)
NASA-TM-X-66835; K-V-059/12 , 19721018; Oct 18, 1972
Accession ID: 75N74061
Document ID: 19750067813
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi. ... 025089.pdf
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Skylab Saturn 1B flight manual
NASA Center for AeroSpace Information (CASI)
NASA-TM-X-70137; MSFC-MAN-206 , 19720930; Sep 30, 1972
A Saturn 1B Flight Manual provides launch vehicle systems descriptions
and predicted performance data for the Skylab missions. Vehicle SL-2
(SA-206) is the baseline for this manual; but, as a result of the great
similarity, the material is representative of SL-3 and SL-4 launch
vehicles, also. The Flight Manual is not a control document but is
intended primarily as an aid to astronauts who are training for Skylab
missions. In order to provide a comprehensive reference for that
purpose, the manual also contains descriptions of the ground support
interfaces, prelaunch operations, and emergency procedures. Mission
variables and constraints are summarized, and mission control
monitoring and data flow during launch preparation and flight are
discussed.
Accession ID: 74N29276
Document ID: 19740021163
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi. ... 021163.pdf
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Re: Svetska zavera ili jedan sasvim običan dan...
The Moon: An Unexplained Phenomenon
Aug 13, 2013 By Henrik Palmgren | redice.tv
Here is a collection of interesting quotes from scientists, authors, researchers, NASA insiders and star-gazers relating to the enigmatic and often inexplicable nature of the moon:
Isaac Asimov,
American author and professor of biochemistry at Boston University and Science Fiction writer. Asimov was one of the most prolific writers of all time.
"We cannot help but come to the conclusion that the Moon by rights ought not to be there. The fact that it is, is one of the strokes of luck almost too good to accept… Small planets, such as Earth, with weak gravitational fields, might well lack satellites… … In general then, when a planet does have satellites, those satellites are much smaller than the planet itself. Therefore, even if the Earth has a satellite, there would be every reason to suspect… that at best it would be a tiny world, perhaps 30 miles in diameter. But that is not so. Earth not only has a satellite, but it is a giant satellite, 2160 miles in diameter. How is it then, that tiny Earth has one? Amazing."
"The Moon, which has no atmosphere and no magnetic field, is basically a freak of nature"
Irwin Shapiro,
Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics
“The best possible explanation for the Moon is observational error – the Moon doesn’t exist.’
"The Moon is bigger than it should be, apparently older than it should be and much lighter in mass than it should be. It occupies an unlikely orbit and is so extraordinary that all existing explanations for its presence are fraught with difficulties are none of them could be considered remotely watertight."
Christopher Knight and Alan Bulter
Book: Who Built the Moon?
The Moon has astonishing synchronicity with the Sun. When the Sun is at its lowest and weakest in mid-winter, the Moon is at its highest and brightest, and the reverse occurs in mid-summer. Both set at the same point on the horizon at the equinoxes and at the opposite point at the solstices. What are the chances that the Moon would naturally find an orbit so perfect that it would cover the Sun at an eclipse and appear from Earth to be the same size? What are chances that the alignments would be so perfect at the equinoxes and solstices?
Farouk El Baz,
NASA
"If water vapour is coming from the Moon’s interior is this serious. It means that there is a drastic distinction between the different phases of the lunar interior – that the interior is quite different from what we have seen on the surface."
Mikhail Vasin, Alexander Shcherbakov,
Societ Academy of Sciences, 1970.
"Is the moon a creation of an alien intelligence?"
Dr Harold Urey,
Nobel Prize for Chemistry
"I’m terribly puzzled by the rocks from the Moon and in particular of their titanium content."
Dr S Ross Taylor,
Geochemist of lunar chemical analysis,
Said the problem was that maria plains the size of Texas had to be covered with melted rock containing fluid titanium. He said you would not expect titanium ever to be hot enough to do that, even on Earth, and no one has ever suggested that the Moon was hotter than the Earth.
"What could distribute titanium in this way? Highly advanced technology developed and operated by entities that are immensely more technologically advance than humans."
Dr. Gordon MacDonald,
NASA
"it would seem that the Moon is more like a hollow than a homogenous sphere’. He surmised that the data must have been wrong – but it wasn’t."
Carl Sagan,
Cosmologist,
"A natural satellite cannot be a hollow object."
Dr. Sean C Solomon,
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
"The Lunar Orbiter experiments had vastly improved knowledge of the Moon’s gravitational field and indicated the frightening possibility that the Moon might be hollow."
University of Arizona Lon Hood
"We knew that the Moon’s core was small, but we didn’t know it was this small… This really does add weight to the idea that the Moon’s origin is unique, unlike any other terrestrial body."
NASA scientists
The Apollo 12 mission to the Moon in November 1969 set up seismometers and then intentionally crashed the Lunar Module causing an impact equivalent to one ton of TNT. The shockwaves built up for eight minutes, and NASA scientists said the Moon ‘rang like a bell.
Maurice Ewing,
American geophysicist and oceanographer
"As for the meaning of it, I’d rather not make an interpretation right now, but it is as though someone had struck a bell, say, in the belfry of the a church a single blow and found that the reverberation from it continued for 30 minutes."
Ken Johnson,
Supervisor of the Data and Photo Control department during the Apollo missions
"The Moon not only rang like a bell, but the whole Moon wobbled in such a precise way that it was almost as though it had gigantic hydraulic damper struts inside it."
Moon rocks have been found to contain processed metals, including brass and mica, and the elements Uranium 236 and Neptunium 237 that have never been found to occur naturally.
Dr. D L Anderson,
Professor of geophysics and director of the seismological laboratory,
California Institute of Technology
"The Moon is made inside out and that its inner and outer compositions should be the other way around."
Dr. Robin Brett,
NASA Scientist
"It seems much easier to explain the nonexistence of the moon than its existence."
https://redice.tv/news/the-moon-an-unex ... phenomenon
Aug 13, 2013 By Henrik Palmgren | redice.tv
Here is a collection of interesting quotes from scientists, authors, researchers, NASA insiders and star-gazers relating to the enigmatic and often inexplicable nature of the moon:
Isaac Asimov,
American author and professor of biochemistry at Boston University and Science Fiction writer. Asimov was one of the most prolific writers of all time.
"We cannot help but come to the conclusion that the Moon by rights ought not to be there. The fact that it is, is one of the strokes of luck almost too good to accept… Small planets, such as Earth, with weak gravitational fields, might well lack satellites… … In general then, when a planet does have satellites, those satellites are much smaller than the planet itself. Therefore, even if the Earth has a satellite, there would be every reason to suspect… that at best it would be a tiny world, perhaps 30 miles in diameter. But that is not so. Earth not only has a satellite, but it is a giant satellite, 2160 miles in diameter. How is it then, that tiny Earth has one? Amazing."
"The Moon, which has no atmosphere and no magnetic field, is basically a freak of nature"
Irwin Shapiro,
Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics
“The best possible explanation for the Moon is observational error – the Moon doesn’t exist.’
"The Moon is bigger than it should be, apparently older than it should be and much lighter in mass than it should be. It occupies an unlikely orbit and is so extraordinary that all existing explanations for its presence are fraught with difficulties are none of them could be considered remotely watertight."
Christopher Knight and Alan Bulter
Book: Who Built the Moon?
The Moon has astonishing synchronicity with the Sun. When the Sun is at its lowest and weakest in mid-winter, the Moon is at its highest and brightest, and the reverse occurs in mid-summer. Both set at the same point on the horizon at the equinoxes and at the opposite point at the solstices. What are the chances that the Moon would naturally find an orbit so perfect that it would cover the Sun at an eclipse and appear from Earth to be the same size? What are chances that the alignments would be so perfect at the equinoxes and solstices?
Farouk El Baz,
NASA
"If water vapour is coming from the Moon’s interior is this serious. It means that there is a drastic distinction between the different phases of the lunar interior – that the interior is quite different from what we have seen on the surface."
Mikhail Vasin, Alexander Shcherbakov,
Societ Academy of Sciences, 1970.
"Is the moon a creation of an alien intelligence?"
Dr Harold Urey,
Nobel Prize for Chemistry
"I’m terribly puzzled by the rocks from the Moon and in particular of their titanium content."
Dr S Ross Taylor,
Geochemist of lunar chemical analysis,
Said the problem was that maria plains the size of Texas had to be covered with melted rock containing fluid titanium. He said you would not expect titanium ever to be hot enough to do that, even on Earth, and no one has ever suggested that the Moon was hotter than the Earth.
"What could distribute titanium in this way? Highly advanced technology developed and operated by entities that are immensely more technologically advance than humans."
Dr. Gordon MacDonald,
NASA
"it would seem that the Moon is more like a hollow than a homogenous sphere’. He surmised that the data must have been wrong – but it wasn’t."
Carl Sagan,
Cosmologist,
"A natural satellite cannot be a hollow object."
Dr. Sean C Solomon,
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
"The Lunar Orbiter experiments had vastly improved knowledge of the Moon’s gravitational field and indicated the frightening possibility that the Moon might be hollow."
University of Arizona Lon Hood
"We knew that the Moon’s core was small, but we didn’t know it was this small… This really does add weight to the idea that the Moon’s origin is unique, unlike any other terrestrial body."
NASA scientists
The Apollo 12 mission to the Moon in November 1969 set up seismometers and then intentionally crashed the Lunar Module causing an impact equivalent to one ton of TNT. The shockwaves built up for eight minutes, and NASA scientists said the Moon ‘rang like a bell.
Maurice Ewing,
American geophysicist and oceanographer
"As for the meaning of it, I’d rather not make an interpretation right now, but it is as though someone had struck a bell, say, in the belfry of the a church a single blow and found that the reverberation from it continued for 30 minutes."
Ken Johnson,
Supervisor of the Data and Photo Control department during the Apollo missions
"The Moon not only rang like a bell, but the whole Moon wobbled in such a precise way that it was almost as though it had gigantic hydraulic damper struts inside it."
Moon rocks have been found to contain processed metals, including brass and mica, and the elements Uranium 236 and Neptunium 237 that have never been found to occur naturally.
Dr. D L Anderson,
Professor of geophysics and director of the seismological laboratory,
California Institute of Technology
"The Moon is made inside out and that its inner and outer compositions should be the other way around."
Dr. Robin Brett,
NASA Scientist
"It seems much easier to explain the nonexistence of the moon than its existence."
https://redice.tv/news/the-moon-an-unex ... phenomenon
Re: Svetska zavera ili jedan sasvim običan dan...
U je, sad u sve verujem, samo fali HellBoy negde da ispadne.
Boringly average, but also perfect for school run mums
Re: Svetska zavera ili jedan sasvim običan dan...
Maxer, hvala, nisam imao predstavu da je Mesec tako neobičan. Znao sam da je uvek istom stranom okrenut prema Zemlji (strana koja se ne vidi sa Zemlje se naziva "tamna strana", što je malo zbunjujuć naziv jer je i ona normalno osvetljena kada se periodično nalazi okrenuta prema Suncu), kao i da je kretanje Meseca oko Zemlje sinhronizovano sa kretanjem Zemlje oko Sunca. Ali mislio sam da je to normalno ponašanje prirodnog satelita planete. Da je neproporcionalno velik u odnosu na Zemlju i da je šupalj (tj. ima malu gustinu iznutra) nisam znao. Ako je već male mase, mislim da je normalno što je zaoscilovao pravilnim prigušenim oscilacijama kada su zakucali LM u površinu. Nema oprugu unutra, ali ga gravitacione sile Zemlje, Sunca i ostatka Sunčevog sistema drže "raspregnutog" i normalno je da zaosciluje oko ravnotežnog položaja ako se izbaci iz njega. Isto važi i za ostala tela koja se nalaze u gravitacionom polju drugih tela.
ali ga gravitacione sile Zemlje, Sunca i ostatka Sunčevog sistema drže "raspregnutog" i normalno je da zaosciluje oko ravnotežnog položaja ako se izbaci iz njega. Isto važi i za ostala tela koja se nalaze u gravitacionom polju drugih tela.Ђенерал Јанковић
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Re: Svetska zavera ili jedan sasvim običan dan...
Interesantan je i taj do 6x veći nivo Titanijuma u uzorcima Mesečevih stena (u odnosu na najbogatija nalazišta na Uralu).
Mesec ima neobično gravitaciono polje: na ovoj "našoj" strani je slabije a na onoj "tamnoj" strani je jače. Hipoteza je da je Mesec na početku formiranja, imao sudar sa drugim manjim Zemljinim satelitom tj. ne sudar - već integraciju: lagano približavanje, sve do trenutka spajanja dva nebeska tela na istoj putanji oko Zemlje. Faktički je taj "mali" Mesec - utisnut u "veliki" Mesec, pa je zato jedna strana Meseca teža-gušća od druge tj. gravitacija je tamo jača. Možda je to nebesko telo bilo pretežno "gvozdeno", kao mnogi asteroidi.
Mesec ima neobično gravitaciono polje: na ovoj "našoj" strani je slabije a na onoj "tamnoj" strani je jače. Hipoteza je da je Mesec na početku formiranja, imao sudar sa drugim manjim Zemljinim satelitom tj. ne sudar - već integraciju: lagano približavanje, sve do trenutka spajanja dva nebeska tela na istoj putanji oko Zemlje. Faktički je taj "mali" Mesec - utisnut u "veliki" Mesec, pa je zato jedna strana Meseca teža-gušća od druge tj. gravitacija je tamo jača. Možda je to nebesko telo bilo pretežno "gvozdeno", kao mnogi asteroidi.
Re: Svetska zavera ili jedan sasvim običan dan...
Ovo nema veze sa mesecom, ali je meni jedan od omiljenih klipova na temu teorija zavere a vezano za svemir i male zelene...
U pitanju je zvaničan NASA-in snimak.. Šta sve ovo leti?..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As-wYmFYb3I
U pitanju je zvaničan NASA-in snimak.. Šta sve ovo leti?..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As-wYmFYb3I
Re: Svetska zavera ili jedan sasvim običan dan...
Najgore je svađati se sa budalom. Prvo te spusti na svoj nivo, a onda te dotuče iskustvom...
Re: Svetska zavera ili jedan sasvim običan dan...
Nemaoj tako izlizalo se od setnje ili su kupovali kineske cizme
ili su kupovali kineske cizme Re: Svetska zavera ili jedan sasvim običan dan...
Možda na te čizme ide neki dodatni "đon"? Ono okruglo mesto deluje kao "priključak" za njega.
Meni je čudnije otkud tako duboki i oštri otisci u suvoj prašini... Izgledaju kao da su napravljeni u vlažnoj zemlji ili pesku.
Meni je čudnije otkud tako duboki i oštri otisci u suvoj prašini... Izgledaju kao da su napravljeni u vlažnoj zemlji ili pesku.
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Re: Svetska zavera ili jedan sasvim običan dan...
"Unanimous consensus that the astronauts wore lunar over-boots over their suit boots when walking on the moon and the footprints were made by those, not the suit boots."
Evo ih desno.
Evo ih desno.
Re: Svetska zavera ili jedan sasvim običan dan...
@Milane pusti to. Ljudima je lakse se uhvatiti za sitne zavjere nego sami procitati sto sta...
Re: Svetska zavera ili jedan sasvim običan dan...
Ma ja sam prvi za dobru teoriju zavere, ali kada se ovako lako debankuje, onda nije zanimljivo
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Re: Svetska zavera ili jedan sasvim običan dan...
Odličan video tj. svedočenja ovih pandura:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR_hKWv45OY
Krvožedni neki vanzemaljci
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR_hKWv45OY
Krvožedni neki vanzemaljci
Re: Svetska zavera ili jedan sasvim običan dan...
Naljepljeno na benzinskoj pumpi
