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Zaboravio sam da je ovih dana utvrđen okvirni termin za predstavljanje nove generacije modela Punto (naslednika Grande Punta & Punta Evo). Vest na engleskom.

Fiat still undecided on the next generation Punto



Fiat has fixed appointments with the cosmetic surgeon twice in the last three years for the Punto (Punto Evo came out in 2009 and followed by a Punto facelift in late 2012) and that’s a clear enough indication that an all-new model is not ready immediately.

According to an Italian newspaper, Fiat is yet to work out the platform and positioning of the next generation Punto and a new model may not roll out before 2015, about ten years from the current model’s introduction.

It is not known at this point if Italians will collaborate with Tata Motors on the 2015 Fiat Punto. The next generation Indica is expected in 2014, and platform sharing between the Indica and Punto could save boat loads of time and money for both companies.

Fiat and Tata Motors share electrical and mechanical components for their B-Segment hatchbacks. They share factories and source from the same suppliers. They’ve also been sharing retail space. The next stage of the joint venture could be sharing complete platforms, but there has been no news from Tata’s camp on this.

Fiat India has confirmed that it will bring out an India specific car under the Punto. This is the next big launch from Fiat. Fiat India CEO told IndianAutosBlog.com growing segments are being watched closely but prior to diving into product expansion, strengthening their sales web is the priority.

STILL WAITING FOR TWO YEARS - Marchionne has "frozen" the development of the heirs of Punto (pictured above) and Bravo, initially expected on the market in 2013. As reported by Automotive News, Fiat will not see a new compact car before 2014 and the same fate may touch the midsize sedan, which was announced with the body "unconventional" (probably a crossover similar to the best-selling Nissan Qashqai). The decision was taken mainly to keep valuable cash in the safe during the current period of stagnation in the European market. A risky choice because, on the continental market in the first two months of the Turin has sold 18.3% fewer than the same period last year and that many new proposals are coming: for example, the recent Peugeot 208, the new Renault Clio (we will see in the fall).

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Punto 2012 and TwinAir


Time did no favour to aging cars. 7 years ago FIAT Grande Punto was a star in the supermini class. Today, it is well overshadowed by countless of rivals. By industrial practice, FIAT should have already renewed it by this time, but in Italian fashion it is not going to replace the car until it gets old, outdated, outclassed and cannot soldier on anymore. Moreover, in the view of market recession in Europe, Sergio Marchionne ordered a freeze of product development this year, therefore the next generation Punto will not arrive until 2014 the latest. That means the current car has to station for at least two more years! To prevent it from sounding too outdated, a facelift is introduced this year. It also has its name reverted to simply Punto.

Calling the Punto a facelift from Punto Evo is probably overstated. Basically, it changed only the front bumper (from black to body-colored) and discarded the chromed stripe above the nose. These make it looks like the original Grande Punto again. Inside, we fail to find any differences save some extra equipment. The so-called facelift must be done with a tight budget. In the mechanical side, the Punto is still offered with the same engines – 1.2-liter 8V 69hp, 1.4-liter 8V 77hp, 1.4-liter Multiair 105hp and 1.3 Multijet 75 or 95hp. The only change is the drop of 1.4 Multiair turbo 135hp, as its demand has been weak, and the addition of 875cc TwinAir turbo with 85hp.

The twin-cylinder engine has been using on 500 and Panda. Using it on the heavier Punto puts some more strain on it, so you need to rev it beyond 2300 rpm to get decent performance. Should you manage to do that, you will find a lively character. Drop below 2000 rpm and it becomes sleepy and unresponsive. Refinement is improved a little over its smaller siblings thanks to the addition of balancer shaft and the use of 6-speed manual gearbox (instead of 5-speeder). Still, the TwinAir is not a choice for refinement. It vibrates heavily at both idle and high rev. The loud, off-beat exhaust note is also intrusive to ears if you are not in a mood to praise its special character. Furthermore, the narrow power band means in the real world you are difficult to keep it at the most efficient rpm, so its fuel consumption falls short of its claims by a large margin. All these findings mean the TwinAir is not as sweet as the 1.2-liter 69hp.

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For the new Fiat Punto, expected in 2015, the volumes could be much more 'lower than the previous model. For now it 's just a guess, but we are talking about 180 thousand units' per year when production of the point, in the past, stood at more than 360 thousand units' with sales in 2006 reached over 400 thousand pieces.

Speaking on 'Thomson Financial' industry sources point out that the figure of 180 thousand units', which emerges in a document sent by Fiat to suppliers' does not stand up economically because the group can not 'ask for the new model, although it intends to place more 'at the top and make it more' attractive old Punto, a figure that no one would be willing to spend '. Thus far, no comment from the Lingotto. The European car market and 'dropped by far than the pre-crisis period and this could be one of the reasons for the reduction in volumes combined with the fact that, perhaps, the group thinks he can cover the missing volumes with another model.

The launch of the new Punto and 'long been postponed because of the difficulties' of the car market: 'better to wait until the market situation better, especially in Europe,' he pointed to the a. D. Sergio Marchionne to journalists asking sull'erede the point. The new model, which Fiat has not yet stated it 'name it' the production site, however, should not be built in Italy (the point so far was assembled in Melfi ed.)

The sources claim that the site more 'seems to be credited to Tychy, Poland, which has high capacity' unused will expire once 'the agreement between Fiat and Ford on the production of the Ka, scheduled to end later this year. It seems the idea of ​​using waned for the heir to the point the factory in Kragujevac, Serbia, where since last July the 500L is assembled, as there appears to be sufficient capacity 'available.

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Radical rethink for Fiat Punto
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/indus ... fiat-punto

The Fiat Punto could morph into a larger version of the Panda because of intense competition, says design boss

Punto could become a larger Panda in the near future

The Fiat Punto is likely to be reinvented as part of the Panda family, due to increased competition in the supermini sector.

The Punto’s future has been uncertain for some time. Europe’s average supermini price of about £8000 has made it uneconomical to continue production in its current form when the model is replaced.

As a result, Fiat’s head of global design, Lorenzo Ramaciotti, has hinted that a more radical rethink is likely.

“At present, the only valid reason for having the Punto is market share,” he said. “To produce an all-new car when you can’t be sure you’ll get the revenues back is a very tough decision to make.

“It may be that we have to think differently and create a vehicle that’s in line with our price expectations.”

[Geza]

I tako, nakon par godina...

[trojanac]

Još da ga prave kod nas.

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Ali Italijani su kraljevi kad je u pitanju maskiranje

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Restilizovana Z10?


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[Ivan]

Ali napravili bum sa grande puntom kojeg su prodavali 400k godisnje i samo ga lagano podgrevali narednih 10 godina dok je sve brze postajao nekonkurentan, da bi rekli e punto nije isplativ pravicemo veliku pandu da skresemo troskove...

Послато са GT-N7100

[Geza]

Za brazilsko tržište, još se ne zna da li će se prodavati i u Evropi.

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Mali Tipo.

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