Mercedes - generalna tema

[Laki021]

Aj molim te reci ovom tupanu da snima horizontalno.

[HKS]

Aj preslusaj ponovo M5 M Sport auspuh.

Slušao sam sad, milion puta bolje od X5M E70 i M5 F10 koji su se čuli ko neki četvrtaci. Može se reći da je dobar zvuk.

[HKS]

Ovo neće biti lako za nadmašiti:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9K3zE-EsIA

[passenger]

Ma jedina stvar koja je AMG do sada vadila je bio zvuk, sad je sa M5 BMW konacno ubo i zvuk, vise nece biti dileme!

Stvarno su im lepe ove ilustracije i animacije auta na ekranu, mapa deluje malo losije.

Zvuk i skoro sekunda razlika u ubrzanju. Nemoj to da mi zaboravljaš molim te

[passenger]

namešten play:

https://youtu.be/SXqaigVroqs?t=62

Posle premotajte na 7:00

[HKS]

9ff GT9

Послато са m2 уз помоћ Тапатока

[HKS]

1.6 radi registracije u Srbiji

Послато са m2 уз помоћ Тапатока

[Xepoj87]

1.6 radi Srbije, hibrid radi Svedjana, 1000ks radi Amerikanaca, 4x4 radi Kanadjana i svi zadovoljni...

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[Laki021]

Prate BMW-ov primer, sta ce, realno nema druge. Predvidjam problem za par godina, izbacice gomilu elektricnih automobila, onda niko nece hteti da ih kupuje (tj jako malo ce ih prodati)... Vremenom ce se to srediti kako EV budu postajali standard, ako se desi neki osetni napredak u tehnologiji baterija (koje su danas jedva upotrebljive za ovu namenu masovno), sve ce se brze dogoditi.


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-daim ... SKCN1BM0TL

Mercedes-Benz to offer electric option for every car by 2022


FRANKFURT (Reuters) - Daimler’s (DAIGn.DE) Chief Executive Dieter Zetsche on Monday said Mercedes-Benz will offer electric versions of all its models by 2022, converting its Smart city car brand to become fully electric.

Speaking at the company’s investor day in Sindelfingen, Germany, Daimler (DAIGn.DE) said it will offer at least 50 electrified versions of Mercedes-Benz passenger cars in a hybrid and fully electric car variants.

Because electric cars have a lower margin than electric cars, Daimler has set itself a more ambitious savings target. The company’s Fit for Leadership 4.0 plan targets savings of 4 billion euros ($4.8 billion), Daimler said.

[HKS]

E stvarno nisam znao da je BMW izmislio elektroauto...

Послато са m2 уз помоћ Тапатока

[Laki021]

Ebo te al si dosadan.
Ako vec ne pratis sta se dogadja onda nemoj ni komentarisati.

[Xepoj87]

Kojom magijom prate bilo kakav Bmwov primer, ne kontam?

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[Laki021]

U tome da ce za par godina svaki klasican model nuditi i u opciji sa elektricnim motorom. Znaci nista od posebnog EQ brenda i ostalih budalastina, jednostavno biras kakav pogon zelis u svom autu, sklapaju se na istoj liniji...
BMW je takav pristup objavio pre par meseci, tako da nije kraj sveta sto je Mercedes par meseci iza sa objavom, meni je ta strategija skroz logicna za sve.


http://www.autonews.com/article/2017080 ... v-strategy

August 7, 2017

BMW is hedging its bets on the future by planning combustion, hybrid and electric versions of its core nameplates — with all three varieties capable of coming from the same assembly line.

The idea, BMW executives say, is to flex production among powertrain types according to the whims of the market. Today’s uncertain forecasts for electric vehicles are the motivator.

“Nobody knows how many electric vehicles you’ll sell in 2020, 2021 and 2025,” BMW CEO Harald Krueger said. “You don’t know how many plug-in hybrids you will sell, and you don’t know how many combustion engines you will sell. The only answer is flexibility [to] deliver all three.”

The approach can help the automaker avoid having to idle some factories while other plants can’t keep up when demand diverges from forecasts. The strategy also calls for BMW to develop “future-proof” platforms that can handle electric powertrains as well as combustion engines.

The X3 crossover and 3-series sedan are among the first vehicles likely to offer all available powertrain types. BMW has confirmed it will introduce an electric X3 in 2020, and an electric 3 series is expected in 2019 or 2020, after the compact sedan is redesigned. Both the X3 and 3 series will move to BMW's CLAR cluster architecture, a highly flexible vehicle platform that allows for any of the planned powertrains.

"The strategy for the future is to integrate all drivetrains, whether it's purely battery-electric, whether it's a hybrid or a purely combustion engine," said Oliver Zipse, BMW AG board member in charge of production. "You will see battery-electric right after diesel right after hybrid on the assembly line. That's the only way we think to respond to the necessary flexibility because we don't know the demand."

The approach is a major departure from the philosophy employed today. When BMW launched its i3 electric compact and i8 plug-in hybrid sports car in 2013 and 2014, it created dedicated production systems in its Leipzig, Germany, assembly plant.

"It was a plant inside a plant, so to say," Zipse recalled. "Completely separated. That is not our strategy for the future."

Moving to the new integration concept will require investment in BMW's assembly plants, Zipse said. For instance, body shops need to make changes to fit big, flat battery packs into the floor of the vehicle. The company would set up a side line inside the body shop to assemble the differently shaped floors, and everything would then come together in the main framing station, he said.

Because EV batteries are so heavy — around 900 to 2,000 pounds — having battery assembly on-site or very close to the assembly plant also is important, Zipse said. That will avoid the cost and complexity of having to ship such a heavy component.

BMW's plant in Spartanburg, S.C., is starting down the path toward a more flexible production system. The plant assembles the X5 crossover, with a plug-in hybrid variant already integrated into the production line, Zipse said. "You can do the same thing with a purely battery-electric," he said.

The plant has produced about 25,000 plug-in hybrid X5s since production started in 2015, said Knudt Flor, CEO of BMW Manufacturing Co. in Spartanburg. Battery production already is done on-site for that vehicle.

Going forward, Spartanburg will be configured to assemble EV versions of its vehicles. BMW assembles the X3 through X6 crossovers in Spartanburg and will add the X7 large crossover in late 2018.

Spartanburg will be able to produce the full range of combustion, plug-in hybrid and electric powertrains with coming models, Flor said. The X3 would be a "good option" for the approach if there's demand for that powertrain range, he added.

"Everything depends on what the customer demands, but then we need to be able to integrate very fast," Flor said. "We need to have this production-ready."

Even with the plan for electric versions of its core models, BMW will continue its i electric car subbrand. The next new i nameplate will be the iNEXT, with advanced autonomous driving features, in 2021.

But BMW doesn't want to split all EVs into a separate line, Krueger says.

"What might happen is, you can destroy the brand," Krueger said. "You have your old-fashioned business and a modern business, and in between, you've killed the brand."

[Xepoj87]

Laki, ti stvarno imas problem sa tim fanbojizmom, resavaj to dok nije prekasno.

EQ je podbrand, cisto da oznace da se radi o elektricnom vozilu, a sve vreme pricaju da ce izaci svi postojeci modeli sa elektricnim varijantama...pa nisi valjda mislio da ce da izbace 20 novih modela, pored vec najvece game vozila u autoindustriji?

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[Laki021]

Sto se ti tako strecas, nista ja tu lose nisam mislio, jednostavno slede istu strategiju i to je dobro.