Univerzalne, ALL SEASON, M+S, gume kupovina da ili ne?

[nikaragva]

Sto se tice cene kostanja dva seta vs jednog seta.
Pod pretpostavkom da se gume u proseku isto trose, za jednako vremena, ces potrositi 4 letnje plus 4 zimske, ili 8 all season.
All season su do sada bile skuplje od "obicnih" guma. Tako da racunica je jasna.
Kazem "bile", jer nemam predstavu koliko sada kostaju.

Druga stvar, je stvar izbora. U slucaju all season guma si ogranicen, na cega, na dva modela guma?!

[Saša]

Može da košta u najboljem slučaju isto, nikako više. Zaboravljate da u slučaju dva seta imate godišnje dva puta trošak montiranja i balansiranja, ili - ako imate još jedan set felni - uračunajte onda i njihovu cenu u taj period trošnja setova (odnosno posedovanja auta). Imaju all season gume itekako smisla, pogotovo na manjim, lakšim i slabijim automobilima, a naročito u uslovima slabih ili nikakvih zima. Ili, bolje rečeno - staviš ih eto čisto da i pred zakonom uvek budeš ispravan.

[nikaragva]

Dobro ima tog skidanja. Ali imas i jedno skidanje i stavljanje all season, jer ce se na pola veka dva seta potrositi Sto je meni 2 godina plafon
Koliko realno te gume mogu da predju km?

Mene je usralo da imam dva seta alu felni, pa nemam skoro nikakav trosak, sam prebacim. Jer u vreme menjanja guma prolece-jesen je nenormalna guzva kod vulkanizera. Eventualno platim 200 dinara vulkanizeru, da on zameni. Tako da meni nije troska, ali ko skida sa felne, jeste.

Jos jedna prednost je sto sa dva seta uvek imas bolju gumu leti i bolju gumu zimi

Da li se isplati to cimanje? Nekad mozda znaci i ta mala prednost, a mislim da nije mala, ako ciljas na premium segment, a ne ako poredis tigar i neku all season.

[Bax]

Ja osetim vrlo dobro kako guma vise nije to sto jeste, negde vec u trecoj sezoni.
Naravno moze to da se tegli jos 3 sezone, ali pad kvaliteta je evidentan.

Moj rezon je teras 3 godine Adapta, predjes 50-60.000km, bacis i stavis nove.
Na zameni guma ustedis za 3 sezone nekih 15.000(3x2x2500) din, i prakticno dobijes 3 nove Adapto, racunica je prosta...

Jos ako si cifta, i za stare ces dobiti 40ak evra...

[steva_anya]

Ima li neka guma univerzalna u dimenziji 185/55/15?
Da uzmem caletu za Punta ili da uzimam dva seta... Ne prelazi puno godišnje, do 10000km, zimi samo u lokalu.

[milosg]

Da li rotirate prednje/zadnje gume nakon određene kilometraže?
Ja to ne radim, a razmišljao sam da možda treba jer fwd generalno brže troši prednje gume.

U nekim novijim uputstvima Volvo npr. ne preporučuje rotiranje na fwd vozilima.

Evo njihovih argumenata:

Tire Rotation
As suspensions and drive trains evolve, so do vehicle manufacturer recommendations for tire rotation.

Volvo's recommendations have always had a technical basis, while leaving some latitude for customer
preference.Presently, for current models, Volvo has no recommended tire rotation. Because this represents an evolutionary policy, customers may need the guidance of a Volvo service advisor to help them understand the performance and handling tradeoffs that come with tire rotation.

Benefit of Tire Rotation

On a front-wheel drive car, the demands placed on the front wheels during acceleration and cornering
can mean a dramatic difference between front and rear tire tread wear. Without periodic tire rotation
front-to-rear, the front tires will typically require replacement sooner. The primary perceived benefit of tire rotation is that front and rear tires will wear down at about the same average rate. In absolute
terms, four tires will not last any longer this way. It becomes a customer choice between replacing two tires sooner and replacing all four tires later. However, with all current Volvo models, Volvo believes that numerous technical, performance, and handling benefits outweigh any perceived benefit of tire rotation. Following are some of those benefits.

Benefits of Not Rotating Tires

Braking Stability Performance

During hard braking, braking on a slippery road, or braking in a curve, good rear tire tread may help you avoid oversteer. Oversteer is when a turning vehicle wants to keep turning because of momentum and dynamic forces on the vehicle suspension. Volvo stability systems are all designed toward reducing or helping a driver avoid oversteer. Still, all things being equal, having more rear tire tread can contribute to reduced oversteer. Without rotation, the rear tires will naturally wear more slowly and have more tread.

Tread Set

As tires age, the tread adopts an angular set, based on its angle to the road surface. For vehicle
handling reasons, front and rear tread angle is not the same. If tires are rotated, the tread will
eventually set at an angle somewhere between what is optimal for a front or rear tire. Although vehicle ride, handling, and road noise may still be acceptable, they may not be optimal. Additionally, an infrequently or irregularly rotated tire may result in tire noise, faster tire wear, and unpleasant changes in steering feel and vehicle handling.

Driving Performance

A tire that can fully adapt to its position will generally provide better steering feel, lower tire noise, and better fuel economy.

Suspension Wear Diagnostics

Every vehicle's suspension needs periodic inspection and maintenance. A tire's tread wear pattern
can be an aid in detecting and diagnosing a suspension problem. Each tire, if left in place, tells a story
about its place in the suspension. Tire rotation, on the other hand, can mask a developing problem.
Early detection is very important, because suspension problem can worsen tire wear, and reduce
vehicle performance, handling, stability, and fuel economy.

Više info:
http://forums.swedespeed.com/showthread ... your-tires
http://www.volvoxc.com/forums/showthrea ... st-manuals

[Bax]

Rotiram kad se sare po dubini razmaknu oko 2 mm

[ivancho]

@steva_anya Rade se GoodYear Vec4seasons i Hankook H730, ako je manja kilometraza, onda ima rezona uzeti all season gume.

Preporucljiva je rotacija na 10-15k radi ujednacene potrosnje pneumatika.

[steva_anya]

Hvala!
Uporedicu cene sa letnjim i zimskim, pa ću odluciti.

[Heinz]

Šta raditi sa all season gumama kad šara spadne na 4 mm? To isto treba uzeti u obzir.

TT

[dragvorl]

Trebalo bi ih baciti ili voziti samo leti. Zato se takve gume vise isplate nekom ko malo prelazi pa mu duze traju a ne mora da ih stalno skida i vraca.

[Heinz]

Koliko malo je mera?
Na kraju ipak ispadne bolje imati 2 seta.

TT

[nidza]

Vazda bilo. Ne postoji devojka za sve.

Tapatalk 4

[dragvorl]

Koliko malo je mera?
Na kraju ipak ispadne bolje imati 2 seta.

TT

Treba izracunati. Ali svakako su bolja 2 seta, tu nema sta da se misli.

[Bax]

Racunaj 3 godine, ili 30000 km, da prelazis sa univerzalkama.