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Re: Vazduhoplovi

Post od zuzazu » 23 Apr 2019, 15:21

Prizemljeni i dalje. Greska je mnogo veca nego sto pricaju (kompleksnija).
FAA ima da ih proceslja kako nikada nikoga nije. Ne smeju da im odobre plovidbenost, a da im ponovo padne avion. Ovog puta, iz bilo kog razloga.
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Re: Vazduhoplovi

Post od dragvorl » 23 Apr 2019, 15:28

Danas sam isao relaciju ~200km avionom, to mi je najkrace do sada.
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Post od srdjanyo » 23 Apr 2019, 16:38

Koliko si leteo, 15 minuta sa sve poletanjem i sletanjem?

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Post od H4wkeye » 23 Apr 2019, 16:45

Fino je Boing ugasio za Maxom. Hteli su po svaku cenu da prestignu Airbus, i umesto skroz novog aviona napravili nesto izmedju sto se na kraju pokazalo katastrofalnim. Pitam se da li ce ovo imati kontra efekat od onoga sto su hteli da postignu. Da ce sada kompanije vise narucivati i okrenuti se ka Airbus-u.

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Re: Vazduhoplovi

Post od passenger » 23 Apr 2019, 16:46

zuzazu je napisao:
23 Apr 2019, 15:21
Prizemljeni i dalje. Greska je mnogo veca nego sto pricaju (kompleksnija).
FAA ima da ih proceslja kako nikada nikoga nije. Ne smeju da im odobre plovidbenost, a da im ponovo padne avion. Ovog puta, iz bilo kog razloga.
Potrosili su sve kredite.
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Post od dragvorl » 23 Apr 2019, 16:47

srdjanyo je napisao:
23 Apr 2019, 16:38
Koliko si leteo, 15 minuta sa sve poletanjem i sletanjem?

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Post od Kabe » 23 Apr 2019, 16:59

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Fino je Boing ugasio za Maxom. Hteli su po svaku cenu da prestignu Airbus, i umesto skroz novog aviona napravili nesto izmedju sto se na kraju pokazalo katastrofalnim. Pitam se da li ce ovo imati kontra efekat od onoga sto su hteli da postignu. Da ce sada kompanije vise narucivati i okrenuti se ka Airbus-u.
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Post od H4wkeye » 23 Apr 2019, 17:25

To da. Da nije toga, ne bi ni doslo do ove situacije uopste.

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Re: Vazduhoplovi

Post od zuzazu » 23 Apr 2019, 17:48

H4wkeye je napisao:
23 Apr 2019, 16:45
Fino je Boing ugasio za Maxom. Hteli su po svaku cenu da prestignu Airbus, i umesto skroz novog aviona napravili nesto izmedju sto se na kraju pokazalo katastrofalnim. Pitam se da li ce ovo imati kontra efekat od onoga sto su hteli da postignu. Da ce sada kompanije vise narucivati i okrenuti se ka Airbus-u.
Ne mogu. I alavi Bus prihvata porudzbine a datumi isporuke su okvirni, pogotovo za manje kupce.
Moja bivsa firma je sa Boinga presla na Bus, a kada su isporuke pocele da kasne, hteli su ponovo da predju na Boing.
Samo se nadam da ce ljudski resiti ovu svinjariju.

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Re: Vazduhoplovi

Post od H4wkeye » 23 Apr 2019, 23:28

Pa da. Kad odes da pogledas za neki od novih aviona vidis po 1000 porudzbina... A pitanje je koliko godisnje mogu da istancaju Bus i Boing. :think:

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Re: Vazduhoplovi

Post od Heinz » 24 Apr 2019, 07:46

SEATTLE, Jan. 8, 2019 /PRNewswire/ -- Boeing (NYSE: BA) delivered 69 737 airplanes in December and set a new annual record of 806 deliveries in 2018, surpassing its previous record of 763 deliveries in 2017.

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Re: Vazduhoplovi

Post od H4wkeye » 24 Apr 2019, 16:21

To je poprilicno. Nisam ocekivao da uspevaju toliko broj da sklope.

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Post od BRABUS » 24 Apr 2019, 17:31

Boeing Suspends Outlook as 737 Max Uncertainty Clouds Future (1)
Wednesday, April 24, 2019 03:09 PM
By Julie Johnsson

Results hit by $1 billion in extra production cost on jetliner
Share repurchases ceased in mid-March amid crisis from crash
(Bloomberg) --Boeing Co. earnings missed analysts estimates for just the second time in five years as executives grapple with one of the worst crises in the planemaker’s century-long history.
The manufacturer abandoned its 2019 financial forecast as it deals with the aftermath of two deadly crashes of its 737 Max aircraft, according to a company statement Wednesday. Boeing also revealed it hadn’t repurchased shares since mid-March after spending $2.3 billion on its stock in the quarter. The second fatal accident within five months occurred March 10 in Ethiopia, spurring regulators globally to ground the single-aisle models.

Boeing’s first-quarter results were weighed down by a $1 billion cost as it slowed production of the 737 to conserve cash until the Max is cleared to resume commercial flights. The company also booked charges to revise training for pilots and update the Max’s software, which has been linked to both disasters.


A steep drop in deliveries of the 737, Boeing’s main source of profit, dragged down first-quarter results. Boeing reported adjusted earnings per share of $3.16, nine cents less than the average of analysts estimates compiled by Bloomberg. But investors focused on better-than-expected free cash flow of $2.3 billion as a signal of the resilience of the aerospace giant’s sprawling franchise.

“There’s a lot of uncertainty, but the quarter wasn’t as bad as people feared,” Ken Herbert, analyst with Canaccord Genuity, said in an interview. Since regulators will determine when the Max is cleared to fly again, Boeing doesn’t want to provide guidance “because that implies they know when the Max goes back in service.”

Despite all the grim news, the shares rose 1.1 percent to $378.11 at 9:58 a.m. in New York as investors breathed a sigh of relief that the results weren’t worse.

Through the close on Tuesday, Boeing had fallen 11 percent since the crash in Ethiopia, the biggest drop on the Dow Jones Industrial Average. That accident and an October disaster in Indonesia involving the 737 Max took 346 lives.

Management View
Investors will look to the company’s conference call for additional information on Boeing’s strategy for dealing with the financial aftermath of the global grounding. While first-quarter earnings trailed analyst estimates, the real focus for investors is on Boeing’s effort to contain the damage to its reputation and the lucrative 737 program, the company’s biggest source of profit.
Chief Executive Dennis Muilenburg and Chief Financial Officer Greg Smith will discuss Boeing’s results and response to the 737 Max crisis in a call slated for 10:30 a.m. in New York.

“Everything is going to be 737 Max: when it is back in the air, when do deliveries resume,” said George Ferguson, an analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence. “I don’t think we’ll get a concrete answer today.”

The manufacturer has redesigned software linked to the Ethiopia and Indonesia crashes, and is expected to submit the changes to the Federal Aviation Administration soon. But convincing regulators -- and passengers -- of the Max’s safety will be a complicated task.

Cash Conservation
While the Max’s indefinite grounding drags on, Boeing’s management team is focusing on conserving cash and tamping down costs. The company has temporarily slowed its 737 final assembly line by 19 percent to build only 42 planes a month, the first such factory slowdown since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks disrupted air travel in 2001.

The rate cut was abrupt -- such moves are typically flagged a year in advance. Blunting the blow somewhat, Boeing is picking up the bill as suppliers such as Spirit AeroSystems Holdings Inc. continue work at the previous production pace of 52 planes a month.

The changes to 737 production didn’t take effect until mid-April, so the full impact on cash and profit will first be reflected in second-quarter earnings. But since the measure was announced in late March, the $1 billion impact under program accounting was reflected in first-quarter profit margins for Boeing’s commercial division.

Operating profit for the commercial-airplane unit was 9.9 percent of sales for the first quarter, compared with 11 percent a year earlier. Boeing’s defense division had a 13 percent operating margin during the latest quarter, while the services unit posted 14 percent.

Adjusted earnings fell to $3.16 a share in the first quarter, missing the $3.25 average of analyst estimates compiled by Bloomberg. Sales slipped 2 percent to $22.9 billion, in line with expectations.

Risk Returns
Robust sales at the defense and services divisions helped Boeing withstand the pressure from the Max grounding, as did a production increase for the 787 Dreamliner, another source of cash. Still, there’s a risk that investors will lose patience if regulators are slow to allow flights of the 737 Max, a key source of cash for Boeing.

The Max’s devastated safety record, production miscues for a much-delayed military tanker, and a wave of negative media coverage threaten another selling point for investors looking at Boeing, said Carter Copeland, an analyst with Melius Research. After the 787’s early stumbles, the Chicago-based planemaker began a systematic campaign to root out risk in an effort to protect shareholders from negative surprises, he said in a report earlier this week.

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Re: Vazduhoplovi

Post od zuzazu » 24 Apr 2019, 19:19

Kao sto rekosmo, razapece ih na krst:

An international committee, composed of nine aviation regulators, including the FAA and the EASA, will start their joint examination of the Boeing 737 MAX update by April 29, 2019.

Named the Joint Authorities Technical Review (JATR), the committee also includes aviation authorities from Brazil, Canada, China, United Arab Emirates, Indonesia, Japan, and Singapore, as well as NASA. Some of them had previously announced that they would require to actively participate in the review. Evaluating the modifications of the 737 MAX should take about 90 days.

https://www.aerotime.aero/clement.charp ... for-review

Nakon toga, nadam se da ce MAX biti jedan od najbezbednijih aviona na nebu.
Trebace samo uveriti i putnike.

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Re: Vazduhoplovi

Post od H4wkeye » 24 Apr 2019, 22:24

Da li ov znaci da ce Max jos barem 90 dana biti prizemljen minimum?

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