Hot hatch

[Day Walker]

Nesto stvarno lose deluje ova Corsa na potezanju.. Ma da i onaj trenutak kad ga Golf prestize deluje kao da je lik omanuo sa menjanjem brzina

[Dusan]

VW prljava kampanja ili je jednostavno menjac bolji?

[Day Walker]

Menjac je sigurno bolji

[dragan]

onaj lik mi ne uliva poverenje. gleda u onaj obrtomer ko da vozi atmosverca sa 15nm, a ne turbaka

[Ivan]

Gti ima drasticno vise obrtnog, sto verovatno znaci i upeglaniju krivu snage, vise snage i bolji menjac, a razlika u tezini je samo 130-140kg koliko sam ispratio.

Послато са GT-I8190 користећи Тапаток 2

[Day Walker]

I 2.0t naspram 1.6t

[Floyd]

Stiže još jedan dizel HH

http://www.b92.net/automobili/vesti.php ... _id=868739

[Ji 4Tze]

Al onda nije više HH kad mu treba 8s do 100..

[ftj]

Warm hatch

[nidza]

8.1s sa toliko mnogo konja i torka? Octavia ima 8.5 sa 150 ks dizelom??


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[Floyd]

Golf 7 GTD 184 ks - 7.5s
BMW 120d 184 ks - 7.2s

Istina, 120d nije HH ali GTD kao i ovaj Focus ST dizel, jesu

[nidza]

Možda je novinarska greška, jer bih očekivao pre 7.1 nego 8.1, ali ko će ga znati.

Neverovatno mi je da bih mogao da ga ošurim sa Škodom ako bih je remapirao na istu snagu.

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[dragan]

nije greska... ovo je warm hatch, ok, ali nista posebno...mada nisam vozio fokus 3 doduse...jedina bitna prednost je sto ce biti osetno jeftiniji od gtd-a i jos vise od 120d, inace je ispod njihove lige po performansama...

jedan zanimljiv isecak vezan za pricu leon-megan -

"Usporedba renault trophy-a 275 (ne r verzija) i seata performance pack (verzija koja je postavila onaj rekord)

Izvor auto express:
We were the only title to drive both the Renaultsport Megane Trophy 275 and the Leon Cupra SC 280 Performance Pack back to back on the Nurburgring, and while both are blisteringly fast they go about their business in very different ways. For starters the Cupra's 5bhp advantage feels more significant than than the numbers suggest out on the track. There's an immediacy to the throttle response and a more free-revving feel to the engine, plus the manual gearshift to is much slicker allowing you to flick the lever around its gate rather than ramming it home in the Megane. The exhaust note doesn't come with flurries of pops and bangs like you get in the Megane, but there's still a hard edge to the exhaust note that encourages you to take it to the limiter.
In terms of steering feel the Megane has the Leon licked. Whereas the Renault's wheel is beautifully weighted and requires more force as you load up the front tyres, the Cupra's variable ratio system feels overly light all the time. The Megane edges it for overall stability, too, staying perfectly neutral unless specifically provoked with a lift if the throttle or bung with the steering wheel, the Cupra tends to squirm a little under firm braking, and move around a bit more mid-corner.
It's the Cupra that puts its power down better on the exit of corners though. The combination of sticky Michelin tyres and the VAQ electronically-controlled limited slip differential (which can send up to 100 per cent of the power to the outside front wheel) creates phenomenol traction that will have you shaking your head in disbelief. And perhaps the most remarkable thing about this Cupra is we know when you dial the adjustable dampers to comfort on public roads, the supple suspension is perfectly suited to everyday use - far more so than the Megane. "

[Floyd]

Po čemu GTD i ST nisu hot hatch?
Warm je nešto drugo... našminkan hatch sa jačim motorom. Npr. Golf 1.4 TSI R-line...

[dragan]

St je hh koliko i walkerova astra, zar ne? Ima li tu granice onda... Opet dolazimo na to da nije poenta u ciframa...
Za gtd nisam rekao nista, niti imam neki poseban stav. Pokusali su da naprave hh dizel, meni to nije to, ali ok, nekome vrvtno jeste, ali je svakako dosta brzi auto od fokusa...