Alfa Romeo - generalna tema

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Re: Alfa Romeo - generalna tema

Post od passenger » 11 Jan 2019, 17:44

Otkud ta cena za 2.0? Toliko ne verujem ni da je za 2.4 :zbunjen:
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Post od TheWickerMan » 11 Jan 2019, 18:20

Heineken je napisao:Bas tako , ja gledam auto do 5000 evra otprilike i 159 mi je prvi pik . Moze se naci ok ali 2006-07 plafon da je dobra , restajl nema sanse..
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Post od Geza » 11 Jan 2019, 19:03

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Post od Heineken » 11 Jan 2019, 19:12

Puzo81 je napisao:
11 Jan 2019, 15:57
Video sam je pre par dana na forumu, lepa je i mislim ok održavana samo ne bih sa krem enterijerom vec crni alfateks i mooožda koža.

Išao bih na 1.9 150ks jer je set kv i zamajac za 2.0 bolesno skupi, 1000+ jura (dok su za 8v(120) i 16v (150) oko 500. Mnogo mi se sviđa karavan sa krovnim nosačima. Ti bi bio pun pogodak :D

Restajl obavezno, kinta do 5500-6000max.
Ma i ja bih restajl model ali 1.9, znam da je kvacilo prakticno duplo skuplje za 2.0 a isto tako i usis je duplo skuplji plus jos neke bubice

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Heineken je napisao:Bas tako , ja gledam auto do 5000 evra otprilike i 159 mi je prvi pik . Moze se naci ok ali 2006-07 plafon da je dobra , restajl nema sanse..
'Oćeś kupiš 147? :mrgreen:

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Post od ChobbyNS » 11 Jan 2019, 20:23

Puzo81 je napisao:Video sam je pre par dana na forumu, lepa je i mislim ok održavana samo ne bih sa krem enterijerom vec crni alfateks i mooožda koža.

Išao bih na 1.9 150ks jer je set kv i zamajac za 2.0 bolesno skupi, 1000+ jura (dok su za 8v(120) i 16v (150) oko 500. Mnogo mi se sviđa karavan sa krovnim nosačima. Ti bi bio pun pogodak :D

Restajl obavezno, kinta do 5500-6000max.
Set kvačilo sa zamajcem je nešto oko 100k za 2.4 za 2.0 mislim da košta isto kao za 1.9.

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Post od Heineken » 11 Jan 2019, 20:24

Samo zamajac je oko 80 hiljada dinara za 2.0 mjet. Mozda moze Valeo za manje pare da se pazari

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Post od passenger » 11 Jan 2019, 20:30

Nene, gledam cene u nemačkoj. Užas skupo za 2.0
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Post od Puzo81 » 11 Jan 2019, 22:05

Evo nadjoh post, cene sa popustom kod svaje u radnji (orig iz KitK-a):

Puzo81 je napisao:Luk set kvacila+hidrodruk+zamajac 118000 drugarska cena za 2.0 jtdm 170ks.

Valeo gornji navedeni komplet 55000 takodje drugarska cena za 1.9 jtd 150ks.

Zar je moguće takva razlika izmedju 2.0 i 1.9 i da li i 2.0 nosi M32?

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Post od ChobbyNS » 11 Jan 2019, 22:58

Da, 2.0 nosi f40 menjac, verovatno je zato takva i razlika.
Moja greska onda :)

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Post od Geza » 26 Jan 2019, 01:20

The story behind Alfa Romeo’s handling reinvention
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/indu ... einvention

Italian car maker reveals technical details of return-to-form Giulia and Stelvio models

The Giulia saloon and the Stelvio SUV have signalled a return to handling greatness for Alfa Romeo, with levels of precision and poise at the top of their classes.

Alfa chose not to delve into the engineering of the all-new chassis at the launches of both cars, but recently revealed more about their impressive underpinnings.

We've taken a look at four of the most significant technologies helping the brand reclaim its position as a maker of true drivers' cars.

1. Torque vectoring, limited-slip differentials

The transmission toolkit for the new chassis includes two rear axle differentials. There’s a conventional mechanical limited-slip version and an electronic torque vectoring unit equipped with two clutch packs to direct more torque to either rear wheel.

Vectoring more torque to the outside wheel reduces understeer by 17%, gives a 4% increase in lateral acceleration and increases agility by 20%. It can also have the opposite effect, helping to stabilise the car when the driver overcooks it. In the UK, limited-slip differentials are available in a performance pack on both models, while torque vectoring is standard on the 503bhp Q2 two-wheel-drive-only Giulia Quadrifoglio and Q4 all-wheel-drive Stelvio Quadrifoglio.

2. Brake-by-wire

Continental AG’s MKC1 brake-by-wire system makes its world debut in Alfa’s all-new Intelligent Braking System (IBS). Brembo brake calipers are still hydraulically operated rather than electro-mechanical but what’s changed is the front end. Instead of acting directly on a hydraulic master cylinder as usual, pressure on the brake pedal is transformed into hydraulic pressure by an electronic control module (ECU). One braking unit weighing 6kg replaces four weighing 10kg on a conventional system and takes up less space.

The driver gets a brake pedal feel that remains consistent and firm, however hot the brakes may get (so no spongy pedal on track). Standard calipers are aluminium four-piston on the front and cast-iron single piston on the rear. “The Quadrifoglio is designed to drive from home to work during the week and to go on track at the weekends,” says test co-ordinator Federico Langarelli Sellani, so rear calipers are also aluminium four-piston on those models. An optional four-wheel carboceramic (CCM) disc brake with sixpiston front calipers gives a generous weight saving of 5kg per wheel and colossal, inexhaustible braking performance.

3. Q4 on-demand all-wheel drive

Alfa Romeo teamed up with Magna Powertrain to design its own unique Q4 on-demand all-wheel-drive system, available only on the Stelvio in the UK. “The system is performance focused and normally delivers all the torque to the rear. This not only gives a rear-wheel-drive feel but is also fuel efficient,” says Q4 chief engineer Alessandro Avallone. At the heart of the system is an Active Transfer Case (ATC) housing a wet clutch pack to distribute torque to the front and rear axles. A compact front differential weighs only 11kg and the total weight of the system is less than 50kg.

An electronic brain, the Chassis Domain Control, measures the car’s yaw rate, wheel speeds, steering angle and throttle position. The clutch pack in the transfer case can react in less than 150 milliseconds to transfer up to 885lb ft torque to the front axle, the exact amount being continually varied “like a heartbeat”, says Avallone, to keep the car in balance.

The axle ratio in the rear is marginally lower, to mechanically drive more torque to the rear wheels. “That puts a lot of energy through the clutch pack but the thermal protection levels are set very high,” says Avallone. So you can have oversteering fun without the clutch pack overheating.

4. Patented Alfa link suspension

The lightweight chassis design is totally bespoke to the Giulia and Stelvio, says Stelvio chief engineer Filippo Epifani. “We had full freedom to design whatever we wanted. We designed the suspension to give the best performance, then the rest of the car was designed around it.” In total, 45% of all components are made from aluminium.

The front suspension is a double wishbone system, but with a difference. Grasp your shoulder with one hand and your arm resembles the upper triangular wishbone, the wheel hub attached at the point of your elbow by a single joint. This joint is split into two on the lower wishbone, crossing over in a scissor action as the wheel turns. “Through this unique movement the caster trail is constant, giving a progressive, linear steering feel,” explains Epifani.

At the rear, there’s a multi-link design comprising a broad, hollow aluminium lower wishbone and upper links that minimise changes in geometry as the suspension moves. The integral link best balances cornering rigidity, longitudinal flexibility for ride comfort and rear seat space. To help achieve a near-50:50 weight distribution, the rear subframe is aluminium on the Stelvio and steel on the lighter Giulia.
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Post od Geza » 11 Feb 2019, 21:24

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Post od rele » 14 Feb 2019, 21:53

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Post od TheWickerMan » 14 Feb 2019, 22:48

Gde je ovo bilo, Rele?

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