Jedno sletanje i to u Singapuru gde su se menjale i posade. Mojak ujak je leteo na toj liniji na B707.snork je napisao: ↑10 Okt 2019, 07:54B707 je naravno najpoznatiji i najviše proizvođen među navedenim avionima. Koristio ih je i JAT za letove do Amerike i Australije pre dolaska širokotrupnih DC-10. Samo što su JAT-ovi letovi do Australije (i sa B707 i sa DC-10) imali bar jedno (npr. u Kuala Lumpuru) ili dva usputna sletanja.
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Blago njemu! Sam let tolike dužine je impresivan, a pogotovo još u doba kad je inercijalni navigacioni sistem bio toliko skup da su ga imale samo ICBM i strateški bombarderi. U dugolinijskim putničkim avionima je osim dva pilota i flajt inženjera, obavezno postojao i navigator. Kompas, sekstant, radio-navigaciona sredstva, sve je to korišćeno da bi se crtala karta leta, a postojala je realna opasnost da se zaluta. Kao recimo što je zalutao ovaj B707: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Ai ... Flight_902 Jedina komunikacija na velike daljine je bio kratkotalasni (HF) radio, što verujem da je i dalje obavezna oprema dugolinijskih aviona.
Pogledah na Google Earth najkraću udaljenost od Beograda do Singapura (meri luk po globusu, ne bi trebalo da postoji greška kao kod ravne karte gde tačnost zavisi od korišćene projekcije) - 9400 km (Kuala Lumpur je 300 km bliže). Znači na granici doleta za ovaj tip aviona, pa je definitivno poletao sa punim rezervoarima. Do Sidneja još dodatnih 6300 km.
Pogledah na Google Earth najkraću udaljenost od Beograda do Singapura (meri luk po globusu, ne bi trebalo da postoji greška kao kod ravne karte gde tačnost zavisi od korišćene projekcije) - 9400 km (Kuala Lumpur je 300 km bliže). Znači na granici doleta za ovaj tip aviona, pa je definitivno poletao sa punim rezervoarima. Do Sidneja još dodatnih 6300 km.
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My Letter to the Editor of New York Times Magazine
http://www.sullysullenberger.com/my-let ... -magazine/
Capt. “Sully” Sullenberger
New York Times Magazine
Published in print on October 13, 2019
In “What Really Brought Down the Boeing 737 MAX?” William Langewiesche draws the conclusion that the pilots are primarily to blame for the fatal crashes of Lion Air 610 and Ethiopian 302. In resurrecting this age-old aviation canard, Langewiesche minimizes the fatal design flaws and certification failures that precipitated those tragedies, and still pose a threat to the flying public. I have long stated, as he does note, that pilots must be capable of absolute mastery of the aircraft and the situation at all times, a concept pilots call airmanship. Inadequate pilot training and insufficient pilot experience are problems worldwide, but they do not excuse the fatally flawed design of the Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System (MCAS) that was a death trap. As one of the few pilots who have lived to tell about being in the left seat of an airliner when things went horribly wrong, with seconds to react, I know a thing or two about overcoming an unimagined crisis. I am also one of the few who have flown a Boeing 737 MAX Level D full motion simulator, replicating both accident flights multiple times. I know firsthand the challenges the pilots on the doomed accident flights faced, and how wrong it is to blame them for not being able to compensate for such a pernicious and deadly design. These emergencies did not present as a classic runaway stabilizer problem, but initially as ambiguous unreliable airspeed and altitude situations, masking MCAS. The MCAS design should never have been approved, not by Boeing, and not by the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA). The National Transportation Safety Board has found that Boeing made faulty assumptions both about the capability of the aircraft design to withstand damage or failure, and the level of human performance possible once the failures began to cascade. Where Boeing failed, the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) should have stepped in to regulate but it failed to do so. Lessons from accidents are bought in blood and we must seek all the answers to prevent the next one. We need to fix all the flaws in the current system — corporate governance, regulatory oversight, aircraft maintenance, and yes, pilot training and experience. Only then can we ensure the safety of everyone who flies.
Capt. “Sully” Sullenberger
http://www.sullysullenberger.com/my-let ... -magazine/
Capt. “Sully” Sullenberger
New York Times Magazine
Published in print on October 13, 2019
In “What Really Brought Down the Boeing 737 MAX?” William Langewiesche draws the conclusion that the pilots are primarily to blame for the fatal crashes of Lion Air 610 and Ethiopian 302. In resurrecting this age-old aviation canard, Langewiesche minimizes the fatal design flaws and certification failures that precipitated those tragedies, and still pose a threat to the flying public. I have long stated, as he does note, that pilots must be capable of absolute mastery of the aircraft and the situation at all times, a concept pilots call airmanship. Inadequate pilot training and insufficient pilot experience are problems worldwide, but they do not excuse the fatally flawed design of the Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System (MCAS) that was a death trap. As one of the few pilots who have lived to tell about being in the left seat of an airliner when things went horribly wrong, with seconds to react, I know a thing or two about overcoming an unimagined crisis. I am also one of the few who have flown a Boeing 737 MAX Level D full motion simulator, replicating both accident flights multiple times. I know firsthand the challenges the pilots on the doomed accident flights faced, and how wrong it is to blame them for not being able to compensate for such a pernicious and deadly design. These emergencies did not present as a classic runaway stabilizer problem, but initially as ambiguous unreliable airspeed and altitude situations, masking MCAS. The MCAS design should never have been approved, not by Boeing, and not by the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA). The National Transportation Safety Board has found that Boeing made faulty assumptions both about the capability of the aircraft design to withstand damage or failure, and the level of human performance possible once the failures began to cascade. Where Boeing failed, the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) should have stepped in to regulate but it failed to do so. Lessons from accidents are bought in blood and we must seek all the answers to prevent the next one. We need to fix all the flaws in the current system — corporate governance, regulatory oversight, aircraft maintenance, and yes, pilot training and experience. Only then can we ensure the safety of everyone who flies.
Capt. “Sully” Sullenberger
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Ne sme toliko para propasti.
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Legendarni Sully, pravo u centar!
O ovome pisem na ovim stranama jos od udesa MAX-a.
Kako o pravom problemu koji je snasao posade a koji se uporno gura pod tepih, tako i o losem skolovanju pilota koje pominje Sully u poslednjim recenicama teksta.
O ovome pisem na ovim stranama jos od udesa MAX-a.
Kako o pravom problemu koji je snasao posade a koji se uporno gura pod tepih, tako i o losem skolovanju pilota koje pominje Sully u poslednjim recenicama teksta.
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Bas me zanima koliko ce ovo biti profitabilno. Sad smo postali regionalna sila sa cak tri medjunarodna aerodroma
Ocekujem uskoro Ponikve i Sjenicu da otvore
Država donela odluku o proglašenju linija Kraljevo-Beč i Kraljevo-Solun za linije u javnom interesu u vazdušnom saobraćaju
Kako prenosi T6
https://tangosix.rs/2019/15/10/drzava-d ... aobracaju/
Ocekujem uskoro Ponikve i Sjenicu da otvore
Država donela odluku o proglašenju linija Kraljevo-Beč i Kraljevo-Solun za linije u javnom interesu u vazdušnom saobraćaju
Kako prenosi T6
https://tangosix.rs/2019/15/10/drzava-d ... aobracaju/
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http://www.rts.rs/page/stories/sr/story ... va-eu.html
"Srpska aviokompanija "Er Srbija" pregovara s ruskom civilnom aviokompanijom "Suhoj" o kupovini aviona "Suhoj Superdžet 100", izjavio je visoki zvaničnik ruske vlade Sergej Prihotko.
Sergej Prihotko je, uoči današnje posete Srbiji premijera Dmitrija Medvedeva, novinarima u Moskvi rekao da se razgovara i o formiranju centra za remont aviona SSJ 100 na beogradskom aerodromu, kao i o kupovini letelica MS-21, koja je u pripremnoj fazi, prenosi Tas."
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"Srpska aviokompanija "Er Srbija" pregovara s ruskom civilnom aviokompanijom "Suhoj" o kupovini aviona "Suhoj Superdžet 100", izjavio je visoki zvaničnik ruske vlade Sergej Prihotko.
Sergej Prihotko je, uoči današnje posete Srbiji premijera Dmitrija Medvedeva, novinarima u Moskvi rekao da se razgovara i o formiranju centra za remont aviona SSJ 100 na beogradskom aerodromu, kao i o kupovini letelica MS-21, koja je u pripremnoj fazi, prenosi Tas."
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Što, šta fali? Ako Osijek i Maribor imaju međunarodne aerodrome, što ne bi Kraljevo, Užice i Sjenica. Linija za Solun jeste besmislena, ali za Zapadnu Evropu itekako imaju smisla.BAJKER je napisao: ↑15 Okt 2019, 21:17Bas me zanima koliko ce ovo biti profitabilno. Sad smo postali regionalna sila sa cak tri medjunarodna aerodroma
Ocekujem uskoro Ponikve i Sjenicu da otvore
Država donela odluku o proglašenju linija Kraljevo-Beč i Kraljevo-Solun za linije u javnom interesu u vazdušnom saobraćaju
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Cekamo aerodrom u NS.
Mauro Forghieri:"Power comes from speed, torque without speed is nothing"
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NS - Solun bi mi leglo samo tako
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Sa sve većim brojem ljudi koji žive u inostranstvu, plus se i grad razvija i ima sve više stanovništva, svakako da bi taj aerodrom imao potencijal. Posebno ako se zna da aerodrom u Beogradu nije baš meka low-cost kompanija a NS bi to lagano mogao biti.
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I još da uspostave liniju NS-BG
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Najgore je svađati se sa budalom. Prvo te spusti na svoj nivo, a onda te dotuče iskustvom...
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Šokiram se kad vidim cene letova danas, može iz Beča za Moskvu da se leti i za ispod 200e povratna karta...
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