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Nije bilo danas prilike za neku zimsku voznju ...ne sečam se kad sam se poslednji put vozio po snegu sa svojim avtom.

Ja pre par dana vozio, ali samo po parkingu

Vreme u NS-u danas bilo u PMS-u ocigledno. Prvo pljuscina koja je napravila Obedske bare u pojedinim ulicama, a onda krenuo sneg da siba nekih pola sata.

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Michelin CrossClimate + 215/55 R16 93H
165.7 EUR x 4 = 662.8 EUR

Michelin CrossClimate + 205/55 R16 91H
91.4 EUR = 365.6 EUR

Definitivno kada se istrose ove Conti PC 2 215/55/16 idem dole na 205/55/16. Jes da ce auto da bude 1 cm nize, ali...Bar ce potrosnja da bude manja.

Obe su podrzane na 7.0J x 16 u CoCu i saobracajnoj.

Enormna razlika.

Kakve su fulda multicontrol. One su jeftinije od michelina.

Duplo... To je atipicna dimenzija zato su i skupe. To je cena sa 18". 16" sve preko 100e po komadu je previse za normalne gume

Michelin je provereno odlican, ne menjam ga

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Kada kupite gumu sa oznakom M+S i simbolom planina/snežna pahuljica možete biti sigurni da ste kupili zaista zimsku gumu.

http://www.4gume.com/o-gumama/ms-oznaka-na-auto-gumama/

Bilo je vec reci o ovom na forumu i uvek je interesantna tema. Odem napolje jer na oba auta imam AS gume, i pogledam oznake i na obe su simboli planina-pahulja.
Sava Adapto i BFG G-grip All season 2.

Pa to je i poenta all season guma, da su legalitis za sneg

Nije samo to poenta, dosta je bitno i kako se ponasaju po snegu i zimskim uslovima uopste. Simbol planine sa pahuljom imaju obavezno gume koje su namenjene iskljucivo za zimsku upotrebu. Sad se pojavljuju AS koje ne samo sto imaju M+S oznaku koja im daje pravo da prolaze pred zakonom kao zimske, vec imaju i planinu i pahulju koja daje jos vecu tezinu sto se zimske upotrebe tice, bar po simbolici.

Nije to ništa novo.
Imaš ECE pravilnik za gume, pogledaj ga.

Darko napisao: 04 Feb 2018, 23:34 Kakve su fulda multicontrol. One su jeftinije od michelina.

Vrlo su solidne, ali nemoj da si pomislio da daš na focusa takve gume.

Heinz napisao: 07 Feb 2018, 17:55 Nije to ništa novo.
Imaš ECE pravilnik za gume, pogledaj ga.

Bila je diskusija apropo ovoga u ovoj temi, pa reko da stavim da vide ljudi, jer niko nije kacio do sad konkretan primer.

viewtopic.php?f=14&t=2399&start=615#p674847

Snow tyres definition
In the media, the regulations regarding the appropriate tyres are usually explained as the obligation to use snow tyres in Germany. It is indeed expected that the current regulations, which make it compulsory for drivers to adjust their tyres to weather conditions, will result in the obligation to have snow tyres. Over the past few months, there have been discussions about which tyres are considered appropriate snow tyres in this context and about the concrete definition of snow tyres. At this moment, there is no legally prescribed definition of snow tyres. However, the ECE regulation no. 30 of the EU directive 92/23 and § 36 of the German Strassenverkehrs-ZulassungsOrdnung do state that snow tyres should always carry the indication M+S, M&S or M.S. This would mean that all tyres with an M+S indication (including some summer tyres) are considered appropriate snow tyres. Snow tyres should also have a minimum tread of 4 mm.

M+S tyres with snowflake symbol
Some tyre manufacturers decided to add the snowflake symbol to their M+S indication. The use of the snowflake symbol on snow tyres is currently only compulsory in the United States and Canada. In the EU, it is only a voluntary indication that is not regulated by law. However, established US tests have shown that tyres with the snowflake symbol have 10% more traction on a snowy road surface than tyres without this symbol. The meaning of the snowflake symbol is also unmistakable to both tyre expert and consumer. The snowflake symbol is also sometimes used as part of the so-called 4-seasons symbol. This symbol does not reflect anything about the tyre’s qualification as a snow tyre. A 4-seasons tyre with such a can only be considered as a snow tyre if the tyre is also showing M+S in combination with the snowflake symbol (separately).

https://www.vandenban.nl/en/tyre-inform ... wetgeving/

Razmišljam se ima li rezona da prodam 1 sezonu stare zimske i 2 sezone stare letnje gume i pazarim AS. Razlog, ušteda.
Vidi da su mnogi zadovoljni sa AS, mada pitanje da li bi isto mislio da je ova zima hladna i sa mnogo snega. Ali eto razmišljam.