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Re: Koliko troši?
Turbo dizel pri 80km/h je trosio <4litra jos krajem 80tih godina Pezo,Fiat tako da danas treba ocekivati i jos nesto manju potrosnju usled efikasnijih motora.
U tabeli navedene deklarisane potrosnje se ne odnose na voznju ulicama i putevima vec na voznju poligonom po tacnom odredjenoj eu proceduri koja odredjuje koliko metara se vozi kojom brzinom, kada se i koliko koci itd.
Pri tome se podrazumeva da se ne koristi ubrzavanje vozila na nacin kako je opsta navika vec daleko blaza varijanta.
Naravno, svi se trude da podese vozilo tako da sto bolje prodje na test ciklusu potrosnje jer potrosnja direktno odredjuje i generisanje CO2 a to je postalo vazan marketinski (i poreski) podatak.
Potrosnja jednog oldtimera, Volvo 340 (Daf) u proizvodnji od 1975. dakle prastara konstrukcija konvertovan na LPG se krece od 7-11litara sa prosekom nepunih 9 litara.
Benzin se ne koristi. 1400ccm, 70KS.
Voznja ibarskom ravnomerno potrosnja 6,7 LPG litara/100km pri 70-90km/h.
(sistem venturi karburatorski klasican). Auto je izmeren na vagi 1080kg, ima nepunih 200.000km na satu. Motor je konstrukciono iz 50tih godina, prastari Renault Cleon smanjenog kompresionog odnosa fabricki, dakle smanjene efikasnosti upotrebe goriva.
U tabeli navedene deklarisane potrosnje se ne odnose na voznju ulicama i putevima vec na voznju poligonom po tacnom odredjenoj eu proceduri koja odredjuje koliko metara se vozi kojom brzinom, kada se i koliko koci itd.
Pri tome se podrazumeva da se ne koristi ubrzavanje vozila na nacin kako je opsta navika vec daleko blaza varijanta.
Naravno, svi se trude da podese vozilo tako da sto bolje prodje na test ciklusu potrosnje jer potrosnja direktno odredjuje i generisanje CO2 a to je postalo vazan marketinski (i poreski) podatak.
Potrosnja jednog oldtimera, Volvo 340 (Daf) u proizvodnji od 1975. dakle prastara konstrukcija konvertovan na LPG se krece od 7-11litara sa prosekom nepunih 9 litara.
Benzin se ne koristi. 1400ccm, 70KS.
Voznja ibarskom ravnomerno potrosnja 6,7 LPG litara/100km pri 70-90km/h.
(sistem venturi karburatorski klasican). Auto je izmeren na vagi 1080kg, ima nepunih 200.000km na satu. Motor je konstrukciono iz 50tih godina, prastari Renault Cleon smanjenog kompresionog odnosa fabricki, dakle smanjene efikasnosti upotrebe goriva.
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Re: Koliko troši?
Test procedure
The cycle must be performed on a cold vehicle at 20-30°C (typically run at 25°C). The cycles may be performed on a flat road, in the absence of wind. However, to improve repeatability, they are generally performed on a roller test bench. This type of bench is equipped with an electrical machine to emulate resistance due to aerodynamic drag and vehicle mass (inertia).
For each vehicle configuration, a look-up table is applied: each speed corresponds to a certain value of resistance (reverse torque applied to the drive wheels). This arrangement enables the use of a single physical vehicle to test all vehicle body styles (Sedan, hatchback, MPV etc.) by simply changing the look-up table. A fan is coupled to the roller bench to provide the vehicle air intakes with an airflow matching the current speed. Many more tests can be performed during vehicle development with this arrangement than with conventional road tests.
The test is conducted with all ancillary loads turned off (Air conditioning compressor and fan, lights, heated rear window, etc.)
Urban driving
The Urban Driving Cycle, also known as ECE R15 cycle, has been first introduced in 1970 as part of ECE vehicle regulations; the recent version is defined by ECE R83, R84 and R101. The cycle has been designed to represent typical driving conditions of busy European cities, and is characterized by low engine load, low exhaust gas temperature, and a maximum speed of 50 km/h.
When the engine starts, the car pauses for 11 s - if equipped with a manual gearbox, 6 s in neutral (with clutch engaged) and 5 s in the 1st gear (with clutch disengaged) - then slowly accelerates to 15 km/h in 4 s, cruises at constant speed for 8 s, brakes to a full stop in 5 s (manual: last 3 s with clutch disengaged), then stops for 21 s (manual: 16 s in neutral, then 5 s in the 1st gear).
At 49 s, the car slowly accelerates to 32 km/h in 12 s (manual: 5 s in 1st gear, 2 s gear change, then 5 s in the 2nd gear), cruises for 24 s, slowly brakes to a full stop in 11 s (manual: last 3 s with clutch disengaged), then pauses for another 21 s (manual: 16 s in neutral, 5 s in the 1st gear).
At 117 s, the car slowly accelerates to 50 km/h in 26 s (manual: 5 s, 9 s and 8 s in the 1st, 2nd and 3rd gears, with additional 2 × 2 s for gear changes), cruises for 12 s, decelerates to 35 km/h in 8 s, cruises for another 13 s, brakes to a full stop in 12 s (manual: 2 s change to the 2nd gear, 7 s in the 2nd gear, last 3 s with clutch disengaged), then pauses for 7 s (manual: in neutral with clutch engaged).
The cycle ends on 195 s after a theoretical distance of 1017 meters, then it repeats four consecutive times. Total duration is 780 s (13 minutes) over a theoretical distance of 4067 meters, with an average speed of 18.77 km/h.
Extra-urban driving
The EUDC (Extra Urban Driving Cycle), introduced by ECE R101 in 1990, has been designed to represent more aggressive, high speed driving modes. The maximum speed of the EUDC cycle is 120 km/h; low-powered vehicles are limited to 90 km/h.
After a 20 s stop - if equipped with manual gearbox, in the 1st gear with clutch disengaged - the car slowly accelerates to 70 km/h in 41 s (manual: 5 s, 9 s, 8 s and 13 s in the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th gears, with additional 3 × 2 s for gear changes), cruises for 50 s (manual: in the 5th gear [sic]), decelerates to 50 km/h in 8 s (manual: 4 s in the 5th and 4 s in the 4th gear [sic]) and cruises for 69 s, then slowly accelerates to 70 km/h in 13 s.
At 201 s, the car cruises at 70 km/h for 50 s (manual: in the 5th gear), then slowly accelerates to 100 km/h in 35 s and cruises for 30 s (manual: in the 5th or 6th gear).
Finally, at 316 s the car slowly accelerates to 120 km/h in 20 s, cruises for 10 s, then slowly brakes to a full stop in 34 s (manual: in the 5th or 6th gear, lat 10 s with clutch disengaged), and idles for another 20 s (manual: in neutral).
Total duration is 400 s (6 minutes 40 seconds) and theoretical distance is 6956 meters, with an average speed of 62.6 km/h.
Combined
The combined fuel economy is calculated by a total consumption of urban and extra-urban cycles over the total distance (theoretical 11023 meters). The total test time amounts to 1180 s with an average speed of 33.6 km/h.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_European_Driving_Cycle
The cycle must be performed on a cold vehicle at 20-30°C (typically run at 25°C). The cycles may be performed on a flat road, in the absence of wind. However, to improve repeatability, they are generally performed on a roller test bench. This type of bench is equipped with an electrical machine to emulate resistance due to aerodynamic drag and vehicle mass (inertia).
For each vehicle configuration, a look-up table is applied: each speed corresponds to a certain value of resistance (reverse torque applied to the drive wheels). This arrangement enables the use of a single physical vehicle to test all vehicle body styles (Sedan, hatchback, MPV etc.) by simply changing the look-up table. A fan is coupled to the roller bench to provide the vehicle air intakes with an airflow matching the current speed. Many more tests can be performed during vehicle development with this arrangement than with conventional road tests.
The test is conducted with all ancillary loads turned off (Air conditioning compressor and fan, lights, heated rear window, etc.)
Urban driving
The Urban Driving Cycle, also known as ECE R15 cycle, has been first introduced in 1970 as part of ECE vehicle regulations; the recent version is defined by ECE R83, R84 and R101. The cycle has been designed to represent typical driving conditions of busy European cities, and is characterized by low engine load, low exhaust gas temperature, and a maximum speed of 50 km/h.
When the engine starts, the car pauses for 11 s - if equipped with a manual gearbox, 6 s in neutral (with clutch engaged) and 5 s in the 1st gear (with clutch disengaged) - then slowly accelerates to 15 km/h in 4 s, cruises at constant speed for 8 s, brakes to a full stop in 5 s (manual: last 3 s with clutch disengaged), then stops for 21 s (manual: 16 s in neutral, then 5 s in the 1st gear).
At 49 s, the car slowly accelerates to 32 km/h in 12 s (manual: 5 s in 1st gear, 2 s gear change, then 5 s in the 2nd gear), cruises for 24 s, slowly brakes to a full stop in 11 s (manual: last 3 s with clutch disengaged), then pauses for another 21 s (manual: 16 s in neutral, 5 s in the 1st gear).
At 117 s, the car slowly accelerates to 50 km/h in 26 s (manual: 5 s, 9 s and 8 s in the 1st, 2nd and 3rd gears, with additional 2 × 2 s for gear changes), cruises for 12 s, decelerates to 35 km/h in 8 s, cruises for another 13 s, brakes to a full stop in 12 s (manual: 2 s change to the 2nd gear, 7 s in the 2nd gear, last 3 s with clutch disengaged), then pauses for 7 s (manual: in neutral with clutch engaged).
The cycle ends on 195 s after a theoretical distance of 1017 meters, then it repeats four consecutive times. Total duration is 780 s (13 minutes) over a theoretical distance of 4067 meters, with an average speed of 18.77 km/h.
Extra-urban driving
The EUDC (Extra Urban Driving Cycle), introduced by ECE R101 in 1990, has been designed to represent more aggressive, high speed driving modes. The maximum speed of the EUDC cycle is 120 km/h; low-powered vehicles are limited to 90 km/h.
After a 20 s stop - if equipped with manual gearbox, in the 1st gear with clutch disengaged - the car slowly accelerates to 70 km/h in 41 s (manual: 5 s, 9 s, 8 s and 13 s in the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th gears, with additional 3 × 2 s for gear changes), cruises for 50 s (manual: in the 5th gear [sic]), decelerates to 50 km/h in 8 s (manual: 4 s in the 5th and 4 s in the 4th gear [sic]) and cruises for 69 s, then slowly accelerates to 70 km/h in 13 s.
At 201 s, the car cruises at 70 km/h for 50 s (manual: in the 5th gear), then slowly accelerates to 100 km/h in 35 s and cruises for 30 s (manual: in the 5th or 6th gear).
Finally, at 316 s the car slowly accelerates to 120 km/h in 20 s, cruises for 10 s, then slowly brakes to a full stop in 34 s (manual: in the 5th or 6th gear, lat 10 s with clutch disengaged), and idles for another 20 s (manual: in neutral).
Total duration is 400 s (6 minutes 40 seconds) and theoretical distance is 6956 meters, with an average speed of 62.6 km/h.
Combined
The combined fuel economy is calculated by a total consumption of urban and extra-urban cycles over the total distance (theoretical 11023 meters). The total test time amounts to 1180 s with an average speed of 33.6 km/h.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_European_Driving_Cycle

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Re: Koliko troši?
Da li neko zna koliko trosi Stepway 1.6 pri 150-160 km/h?
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Re: Koliko troši?
bez 15 nije,auto se posvadajio sa aerodinamikom,plus veliki tockovi,plus visina,plus oni nosaci

Alfi pada cena isto koliko brzo ubrzava do sto
Re: Koliko troši?
Biće da je to tačan odgovor.
Re: Koliko troši?
drugarova mazda 3 nova dizelka 1.6, 8.5l/100km gradska...
307-ica 1.4 benzinjara, cistih 11l gasa + benzina za start.
307-ica 1.4 benzinjara, cistih 11l gasa + benzina za start.
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Re: Koliko troši?
Lm,rezime posle 1900 km zimsle voznje,od toga 660 km auto puta ( brzina 124 km/h),140 km regiona i ostalo grad.B.C je pokazo sledece:
Prosecna brzina 30.3 km/h, prosecnu potrosnju od 8.9 l/100 km i potrosenu kolicinu goriva od 169 l.
Uzeo sam cene sa LUK oil-a gde permanentno tocim.TNG 86.40 po litri a EBMB 155.90 din/l.
Za 1900 km potrosio sam 31 l EBMB i 154 l TNG,dakle 185 l derivata ( tng i ebmb ). Benzin je kostao 4833 din a TNG 13306 din,sto znaci da sam za 1900 km potrosio 18139 din i da km voznje kosta 9,54 din
Uzeo sam prosek jer sam imao 5 punjenja sa TNG-om,i u proseku je punjeno oko 30,8 l TNG-a i 6,2 l EBMB koji su bili dovoljni za prelazenje 380 km ( 30,8 l TNG i 6.2 l EBMB )
Iz poslednjeg odnosa dolazimo do zakljucka da je prosecna potrosnaj 9.73 l derivata ( tng i ebmb ) na 100 km.
Posto sam iskoristi 154 l tng i 31 l embm to sam podelio i dobio odnos od 4,96 puta a zaokruzio sam ga na 5.Dakle odnos benzin:tng je 1:5.Onda ispada da je na svakih 100 km potrosnja bila 8.11 l TNG i 1,62 l EMBM i da je to kostalo 700,56 din plus 252.558 din. Rezime glasi da 100 km puta kosta 953,118 din u koju je uracunata potrosnja benzina i plina.
Za ovu sumu moguce je kupiti 6.11 l EBMB-a,odnosno 6,19 l ED ( 153.90 din / l ).
Prosecna brzina 30.3 km/h, prosecnu potrosnju od 8.9 l/100 km i potrosenu kolicinu goriva od 169 l.
Uzeo sam cene sa LUK oil-a gde permanentno tocim.TNG 86.40 po litri a EBMB 155.90 din/l.
Za 1900 km potrosio sam 31 l EBMB i 154 l TNG,dakle 185 l derivata ( tng i ebmb ). Benzin je kostao 4833 din a TNG 13306 din,sto znaci da sam za 1900 km potrosio 18139 din i da km voznje kosta 9,54 din
Uzeo sam prosek jer sam imao 5 punjenja sa TNG-om,i u proseku je punjeno oko 30,8 l TNG-a i 6,2 l EBMB koji su bili dovoljni za prelazenje 380 km ( 30,8 l TNG i 6.2 l EBMB )
Iz poslednjeg odnosa dolazimo do zakljucka da je prosecna potrosnaj 9.73 l derivata ( tng i ebmb ) na 100 km.
Posto sam iskoristi 154 l tng i 31 l embm to sam podelio i dobio odnos od 4,96 puta a zaokruzio sam ga na 5.Dakle odnos benzin:tng je 1:5.Onda ispada da je na svakih 100 km potrosnja bila 8.11 l TNG i 1,62 l EMBM i da je to kostalo 700,56 din plus 252.558 din. Rezime glasi da 100 km puta kosta 953,118 din u koju je uracunata potrosnja benzina i plina.
Za ovu sumu moguce je kupiti 6.11 l EBMB-a,odnosno 6,19 l ED ( 153.90 din / l ).

Alfi pada cena isto koliko brzo ubrzava do sto
Re: Koliko troši?
Pravio sam neku racunicu na 100km za Astru ovih dana,cist grad dosta kratkih relacija. Izadje mi 9,3l gasa + oko 2-3l benzina.
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Re: Koliko troši?
Evo moje racunice zadnjih 6000-i nesto kilometara...
,kako ce biti sada sa castrol turbo dizel uljem,to




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Re: Koliko troši?
Isto trosi kao 1.4HDI u 207ici, kad ga vozi tast. Resetovao sam mu bord kad je preuzeo auto, od tada tj. kad sam poslednj put pogledao je presao oko 6000km, prosecna potrosnja 4.1. A znam kad sednem ponekad u autu da je od 4.0l do 4.2l. To je uglavnom otvoren put, magistrala, najcesce SM-RU-NS.
Re: Koliko troši?
evo jedan video gde se vidi trenutna potrosnja na 118-120kmh po bordu
ovo je sa 17" felnama sa 19" ce sigurno biti vise
http://imageshack.us/clip/my-videos/19/ ... tzlgl.mp4/
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9396/9 ... atzlgl.mp4
edit: iz meni nepoznatih razloga video ne radi

ovo je sa 17" felnama sa 19" ce sigurno biti vise

http://imageshack.us/clip/my-videos/19/ ... tzlgl.mp4/
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9396/9 ... atzlgl.mp4
edit: iz meni nepoznatih razloga video ne radi

Re: Koliko troši?
Evo neke moje statistike od decembra(mislim 10.12.2012.) meseca do danas:
Opel kadett E CC 1.6 monopoint+TNG
Predjeno 5143km
Sipano 436,97 l TNG
To mu dodje u proseku 11,77 l/100km...(ili po sadasnjim cenama TNG, 870din/100km za gorivo)
Naravno nije merodavna metoda, ali eto, bas sam belezio svaku posetu teengari
Opel kadett E CC 1.6 monopoint+TNG
Predjeno 5143km
Sipano 436,97 l TNG
To mu dodje u proseku 11,77 l/100km...(ili po sadasnjim cenama TNG, 870din/100km za gorivo)
Naravno nije merodavna metoda, ali eto, bas sam belezio svaku posetu teengari

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Re: Koliko troši?
Nije ti matematika jaca strana... 
Auto to trosi cca. 3l manje nego sto si sracunao...
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Auto to trosi cca. 3l manje nego sto si sracunao...
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Re: Koliko troši?
tacno, ispadne 8,5l
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Jes vala, 8,5l po ovim podacima.

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