DPF i regeneracija
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Moguce da hoce da radi regeneraciju i nikad je ne zavrsi jer nema potrebne razlike u pritiscima. Resi to sto pre, mislim da nemas potrebe za zezancijom.

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Malopre na Detos pijaci,Passat B6 u oblaku crnog dima iz auspuha.Vozač bled k'o krpa.Ja ga obilazim i na 30 metara pogledam,ono više nema crnog dima,polako je prešao plavičasti.Da li je to započeo proces regeneracije?
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Kod njega je poceo proces dekompozicije.

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Re: DPF i regeneracija
Jel probao neko ove aditive za ciscenje DPF filtera ili je cuo nesto o njima?
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Nista se nece desiti 
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Kako aditiv uopšte može da dođe do DPF-a kad kroz njega prolaze samo izduvni gasovi?
Ti aditivi bi mogli da utiču da se smanji količina čestica koje motor ispusti ka DPF-u, al ne kapiram kako mogu da čiste sam filter.
Ti aditivi bi mogli da utiču da se smanji količina čestica koje motor ispusti ka DPF-u, al ne kapiram kako mogu da čiste sam filter.
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Tako sto sistem ubrizgava gorivo da bi spalio cadj koja se nalazi unutar DPFa. Pretpostavljam da aditiv pomaze da se to bolje odradi.
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Re: DPF i regeneracija
Meni to ne pije vodu.
Prvo, jedini uslov za regeneraciju je visoka temperatura i redovan tok stvari je da se ona postigne prirodnim putem tj vožnjom na višim obrtajima kada je temperatura izduvnih gasova dovoljno visoka da izazove spaljivanje naslaga.
Drugo, kada se vrši forsirana regeneracija dodavanjem goriva, dodaje se toliko mala količina goriva da bi aditiv bio u tragovima.
Prvo, jedini uslov za regeneraciju je visoka temperatura i redovan tok stvari je da se ona postigne prirodnim putem tj vožnjom na višim obrtajima kada je temperatura izduvnih gasova dovoljno visoka da izazove spaljivanje naslaga.
Drugo, kada se vrši forsirana regeneracija dodavanjem goriva, dodaje se toliko mala količina goriva da bi aditiv bio u tragovima.
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Re: DPF i regeneracija
Pri svakoj regeneraciji on ubrizgava gorivo pomocz kog spaljuje cestice, temperatura tada u filteru bude oko 800 stepeni. Dakle ne ubrizgava gorivo samo kada se radi forsirana regeneracija, nego pri svakoj. Upravo zato je i problem prekidanje regeneracije, jer to gorivo koje ne sagori se vrati u motor i mesa se sa uljem. To je ono kako stvari stoje kod Opela i ono sto sam siguran.
DW Sto se tice aditiva, u principu mozes da uzmes aditiv nekog poznatog proizvodjaca, nece stetiti, samo je stvar koliko ce pomoci. Mozda sa aditivom mu treba manje goriva, tj potrosi manje goriva pri regeneraciji, ko ce ga znati.
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DW Sto se tice aditiva, u principu mozes da uzmes aditiv nekog poznatog proizvodjaca, nece stetiti, samo je stvar koliko ce pomoci. Mozda sa aditivom mu treba manje goriva, tj potrosi manje goriva pri regeneraciji, ko ce ga znati.
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Vozači mogu da pomognu svojim automobilima povremenim korišćenjem aditiva koji štite DPF filter ili mu pomažu prilikom aktivne regeneracije. Ti aditivi se dodaju u rezervoar za gorivo i imaju zadatak da smanje tačku zapaljenja čestica čađi u filteru. Takođe imaju i zadatak da obnavljaju materijale koji se nalaze u samom filteru i da produže njihovu katalitičku funkciju.
Ovo je nesto na brzinu sto sam iznasao.
http://www.jlmlubricants.com/en/product ... aner-100ml
Firstly, it uses a catalyst to bind to the soot particles during combustion, lowering the temperature that they can be burnt off at. Secondly, the additive also increases the fuel burn temperature, which in turn raises the exhaust temperature, increasing the temperature inside the soot trap, burning off of any excess soot in the filter trap, and aiding the vehicle’s regeneration system.
As these vehicles age, vehicles with a higher mileage will start to find that the filter regeneration is harder to complete. Fortunately, the extra help provided by the JLM DPF Cleaner ensures a longer filter life.
Due to the unique combination of additives contained in JLM DPFC, the soot burns at lower temperature, so it will not cause a ‘runaway’ regeneration, or cause a failure due to excessive heat during regeneration.
DPF additives
http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/fu ... lters.html
The most commonly fitted type of DPF has an integrated oxidising catalytic converter and is located very close to the engine where exhaust gases will still be hot. This heat means that passive regeneration is more likely to be successful.
Some models, across a wide range of manufacturers, use a different type of DPF which relies on a fuel additive (Eolys™ fluid) containing Cerium (III) Oxide. Cerium ignites at a lower temperature and adheres to the soot particles meaning regeneration can occur at a lower temperature.
The additive is stored in a separate tank next to the fuel tank and is automatically mixed with the fuel whenever you fill up. Only very small quantities are used so a litre of additive should treat around 2800 litres of fuel – enough to cover 25,000 miles at 40mpg. It lasts about 70000 miles and is replenished during a service – at extra cost.
You will have to pay to get the additive tank refilled at some time in the car's life – expect to pay between £150 and £200 including fluid and labour
Don't be tempted to ignore a warning light showing that the additive tanks need refilling. It's absolutely essential this tank is refilled as without it regeneration is unlikely to be successful and a new DPF may be needed – at significant cost. Fuel consumption can increase as a result of failed regenerations too.
Ovo je nesto na brzinu sto sam iznasao.
http://www.jlmlubricants.com/en/product ... aner-100ml
Firstly, it uses a catalyst to bind to the soot particles during combustion, lowering the temperature that they can be burnt off at. Secondly, the additive also increases the fuel burn temperature, which in turn raises the exhaust temperature, increasing the temperature inside the soot trap, burning off of any excess soot in the filter trap, and aiding the vehicle’s regeneration system.
As these vehicles age, vehicles with a higher mileage will start to find that the filter regeneration is harder to complete. Fortunately, the extra help provided by the JLM DPF Cleaner ensures a longer filter life.
Due to the unique combination of additives contained in JLM DPFC, the soot burns at lower temperature, so it will not cause a ‘runaway’ regeneration, or cause a failure due to excessive heat during regeneration.
DPF additives
http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/fu ... lters.html
The most commonly fitted type of DPF has an integrated oxidising catalytic converter and is located very close to the engine where exhaust gases will still be hot. This heat means that passive regeneration is more likely to be successful.
Some models, across a wide range of manufacturers, use a different type of DPF which relies on a fuel additive (Eolys™ fluid) containing Cerium (III) Oxide. Cerium ignites at a lower temperature and adheres to the soot particles meaning regeneration can occur at a lower temperature.
The additive is stored in a separate tank next to the fuel tank and is automatically mixed with the fuel whenever you fill up. Only very small quantities are used so a litre of additive should treat around 2800 litres of fuel – enough to cover 25,000 miles at 40mpg. It lasts about 70000 miles and is replenished during a service – at extra cost.
You will have to pay to get the additive tank refilled at some time in the car's life – expect to pay between £150 and £200 including fluid and labour
Don't be tempted to ignore a warning light showing that the additive tanks need refilling. It's absolutely essential this tank is refilled as without it regeneration is unlikely to be successful and a new DPF may be needed – at significant cost. Fuel consumption can increase as a result of failed regenerations too.
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Re: DPF i regeneracija
Peugot znam da recimo ne koristi gorivo za sagorevanje, nego ima mali rezervoar za neku tecnost koja je tipa 1L=120e, i onda koristi tu tečnost, ali je trosi mnogo manje nego sto recimo meni potrosi goriva i traje dosfa dugo, kao sto i pisd pri kraju teksta.
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Kod vozila gde je dpf udaljen od motora se koristi aditiv za regen. I tamo se aditiv ubrizgava u cilindre.

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