Vazduhoplovi

[masaivan]

Na leru...

TT

[snork]

Ja nigde taj let video nisam. Svi kazu da je najduzi let trenutno Dubai-Auckland i to 777. Mozda su jednom uspeli ali to nije redovna linija. Moze podatak gde si to nasao?

Uh... to je bilo pre desetak godina, ne sećam se da li je bio Amadeus, sajt British Airways-a ili sajt aerodroma Heathrow. Sad moram da spremam nešto za posao, pokušaću da nađem sutra posle podne.

[zuzazu]

Dugolinijdki letovi nisu isti sa zapada na istok i sa istoka na zapad, neki letovi idu i preko pola.

Pitanje je kako se meri predjena duzina puta. U vazduhoplovnim revijama uglavnom se prikazuje duzina ortodromski po loksodromi na merkatorovoj cilindricnoj projekciji.

Kada poredim svoj plan leta sa publikacijama iz revije ili sa aplikacije duzina izmedju gradova, razlike su znacajne, tako da batalite pricu jer se ne zna kako je vrseno merenje.

[Heinz]

Malo ovoga
http://rs.n1info.com/a211174/Biznis/EIB ... droma.html
EIB spremna da podrži privatizaciju beogradskog aerodroma

i ovoga
http://tangosix.rs/2016/22/11/kuda-bi-t ... -aerodrom/
Kuda bi trebao ići beogradski aerodrom

[snork]

Ne uspevam na internetu da nađem to što sam tvrdio. BA sada uopšte ne leti za NZ (mada na nekim letovima NZ-AU leti Qantas sa BA brojem leta).

Auckland-London leti Air New Zealand, ali sa usputnim sletanjem u Los Angelesu. U ovom istorijatu firme: http://static.airnewzealand.com/assets/PDFs/history.pdf piše da je to počelo 1984:

1984, April 1:

First nonstop B747 flight from Auckland to Los Angeles as part of weekly one-stop service to London. Journey time northbound of 24 hours is fastest from New Zealand to United Kingdom. This brings the number of B747 services to Los Angeles to 10 a week.

Može biti da sam svojevremeno pogrešno shvatio reč nonstop u ovom kontekstu.
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Inače, British Airways-a nema na nebu Novog Zelanda, ali su zato tu Lufthansa, Emirates, pa čak i Etihad. Mnoge stvari su se izgleda promenile u poslednjih 15-20 godina...

[cozmo]

Poslednja poruka kapetana iz srušenog Avro RJ85 u Kolumbiji:

"Señorita Lamia 933 está en falla total, falla eléctrica total, sin combustible."

"Miss, Lamia 933 is in total failure, total electrical failure, without fuel"

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[zuzazu]

Odavno ja pisem da je politika mnogih kompanija da se leti bez dovoljno goriva.

Jos cemo gledati ovakve tragedije dok se neko osmeli da progovori sta se i kako radi.

O umoru da ne davim. Pre neki dan od 3,30 h do 21 h, pa sutradan jos cetiri leta. Sve legalno....

[member]

Verovatno će to ići tako sve dok ne padne avion od neke top 5 kompanije ,a avionu budu neki VIP putnici.
Brazil, Indonezija.... ma koja je briga.

[nidza]

Novine prenose da je kružio i namerno trošio gorivo pred prinudno sletanje?

[Saša]

Pročitao sam negde da je avionu nestajalo goriva (leteo bukvalno na isparenjima) i pilot je tražio da mu omoguće hitno da sleti, ali kontrola leta je dala iz nekog razloga prioritet drugom avionu u istom trenutku (koji je takođe bio u nekim problemima) i ovima nestalo goriva i srušili se. Spet više nesrećnih okolnosti kao i uvek, ali je glavni problem verovatno bio što su leteli tako daleko odnosno sa suviše malo goriva.

[Delija]

http://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php ... id=1205305
Pisu sada svi svasta-nesto...

[zuzazu]

Sve sami novinari - strucnjaci.

Cisto informativno - ako je ostao bez goriva i motori i njihovi generatori vise ne rade, ima bateriju koja fully charged mora da mu da struje za napajanje nekoliko osnovnih instrumenata za 30 minuta.

737NG ima dve baterije za sat vremena.

[cozmo]

Evo snimka kontrole letenja. Ne vidim da je negde proglasio odmah full emergency... bar po ovome:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ab5x_C-CFg

Vidim da je jos neki avion bio u problemu pre ovog sto se srusio... pa je ovaj ostavljen na holdu jer nije nista odmah priijavio. A posle - posle je bilo kasno.

[cozmo]

Cisto informativno - ako je ostao bez goriva i motori i njihovi generatori vise ne rade, ima bateriju koja fully charged mora da mu da struje za napajanje nekoliko osnovnih instrumenata za 30 minuta.

http://www.eldeber.com.bo/suplementos/o ... volar.html

(uključite translate na english)

The flight plan filed by the airline Lamia Corporation, whose plane crashed Monday in Medellin ending the lives of 71 people, had observations that should have prevented the ship leaves the Viru Viru airport in Santa Cruz and end causing a tragedy that still shaking the world.

Before the plane departed, the document that gave the dispatcher of the company Lamia, Alex Quispe (one of the seven crew members of the plane who died) had at least five observations made by Celia Castedo Monastery, official Aasana Viru Viru, who was on duty at the offices where all flight plans are reviewed. The manager said the flight range was inadequate, missing one second alternate plan, which the report was wrong filling and needed to make changes.

according to the documents, the estimated time route was 4 hours and 22 minutes. The same time was recorded for the flight range of the ship, something that should never be the same.
A commander of aviation, with 31 years of experience, he said that this is a mistake not to never make a pilot , as this information is to say that the plane will fly with just the right amount of fuel to reach the programmed destination, not a minute more, not a minute less.

"When a flight plan is done, you should see the fuel load to reach for get from our point of takeoff to destination. In addition, it should include the time it would take to reach an alternate airport in case of emergency or refueling, plus 45 minutes of battery life in the air for any eventuality , "said the experienced pilot, who described what happened as a chain errors that began from the moment the ship was standing on the track of Viru Viru and made a flight plan impossible to pass.

I glavni deo:

Even the operator Aasana placed in its report a textual response Quispe their comments on this point and says: "no Celia, that autonomy has happened, we reached well ... Just like that I present, we do it in less time, do not worry. It's just like that, quiet, that's fine, there just please let me ".

[maxer]

Ne vredi ... ništa ne razumem (samo naslućujem šta bi moglo da tu piše a da nagađem za nešto ovakvo je besmisleno). Čak i kada pokušam španski da prevodim u guglu - ima previše nejasnoća šta stvarno piše (tj. kakav je stvarni smisao teksta).