Da li sam ovo dobro uradio (pozicionirao Kraljevo i Niš)?:
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zuzazu,
Da li sam ovo dobro uradio (pozicionirao Kraljevo i Niš)?:
Da li sam ovo dobro uradio (pozicionirao Kraljevo i Niš)?:
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Serem se na vreme bas, da l' mora svake godine u maju da bude ovo sranje od neveremena svaki jebeni dan.
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Pitaj starije za djurdjevske kiše.
Retko kad je Djurdjevan prošao suv.
Retko kad je Djurdjevan prošao suv.
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A kad ne bude kisa upekne ko nenormalno.
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maxer
znam da si precizan covek pa samo da ti skrenem paznju da LYNI i LYKV geografski ne leze na gradovima Nis i Kraljevo vec na aerodromima.
Nama u avionu, tih par mm ne znaci nista. Pitanje koliko je i avionski data base precizan.
Usmerenje je dobro.
znam da si precizan covek pa samo da ti skrenem paznju da LYNI i LYKV geografski ne leze na gradovima Nis i Kraljevo vec na aerodromima.
Nama u avionu, tih par mm ne znaci nista. Pitanje koliko je i avionski data base precizan.
Usmerenje je dobro.
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Jel to neko pravilo da se leti blizu aerodroma, odnosno da na ruti uvek budu usput-blizu.
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Ovde se tako desilo. U Evropi je "salonsko letenje" - dobra kontrola, aerodroma svuda uz put.
Zavisi kakva ovlastenja imaju avion, kompanija i posada. Rutni alternativni aerodrom moze biti sat vremena od rute sa brzinom one engine inoperative, pa na vise (2 sata, 3 sata).
Zavisi kakva ovlastenja imaju avion, kompanija i posada. Rutni alternativni aerodrom moze biti sat vremena od rute sa brzinom one engine inoperative, pa na vise (2 sata, 3 sata).
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Pretpostavio sam da lokator nije grad već negde pored (tamo gde su aerodromi) ... generalno je "tu negde", a i odgovaralo je meteo-radarskim kartama u to vreme, objavljenim na HDMTZ.
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Nek' je sa srećom!cozmo napisao:Poleteo kinez:
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/05/c ... 37514.html
'Made in China' C919 passenger jet takes maiden flight
Single-aisle plane can carry up to 168 passengers and is meant to rival Airbus and Boeing aircraft.
Nego, kao što CicaMaca pomenu pre nekog vremena, nije im to prvi putnički avion: već su napravili manji Comac ARJ21. Članak na Wikipediji ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comac_ARJ2 ) kaže da su ranije proizvodili MD-80/90 po licenci, pa su ovladali tehnologijom. Ipak, angažovali su Antonov iz Ukrajine da im projektuje novo krilo, motori su General Electric, a avionika Rockwell. Proizvodnja počela 2007, napravljeno 6, a kompanijama isporučena 2 komada. Otprilike, kao Rumunija pre 40 godina i projekat ROMBAC 1-11 (a i sam avion je vrlo sličan). 
Izgleda da nije lako ni konstruisati, ni proizvoditi putničke avione, čak i kada dosta delova dolazi sa Zapada.Ђенерал Јанковић
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Comac ARJ21 mu dodje neka kopija MD-80. Ovo im je prvi samostalno projektovani avion. ROMBAC 1-11 je ustvari BAC 1-11 (avion britanske proizvodnje koriscen sezdesetih i sedamdesetih godina proslog veka kao pandan DC-9) i sklapan je u Rumuniji pod licencom (dakle nije njihov avion uopste).
"This is Chief Inspector Clouseau’s residence. This is Chief Inspector Clouseau speaking on the pheun.”
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Cozmo, znam sve to, a i pisali smo ranije na forumu. Poredim ih upravo zato što su Kinezi pravili MD-90 po licenci, a Rumuni BAC 1-11 takođe po licenci. Samo što su Rumuni to radili pre 40 godina.
Zato sam konstatovao da su Kinezi već imali tehnologiju, pa opet nisu tako lako napravili ARJ21. I pored američkih motora i avionike, morali su da angažuju Antonov da im dorađuje krilo. S druge strane, napreduju velikim koracima i mnogo brže od ostalih zemalja, pa će verovatno biti veliki proizvođači aviona u budućnosti.
Poredim ih upravo zato što su Kinezi pravili MD-90 po licenci, a Rumuni BAC 1-11 takođe po licenci. Samo što su Rumuni to radili pre 40 godina.Zato sam konstatovao da su Kinezi već imali tehnologiju, pa opet nisu tako lako napravili ARJ21. I pored američkih motora i avionike, morali su da angažuju Antonov da im dorađuje krilo. S druge strane, napreduju velikim koracima i mnogo brže od ostalih zemalja, pa će verovatno biti veliki proizvođači aviona u budućnosti.
Ђенерал Јанковић
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Razgovaram sa kolegama sa Busa. Opste misljenje je da samo Ameri znaju da naprave (putnicki) avion.
Svakako je dobro da se i drugi umesaju u igru (evo, Embraeru ide odlicno), ali ne verujem da cemo za naseg zivota videti neku bitnu promenu na vrhu.
Svakako je dobro da se i drugi umesaju u igru (evo, Embraeru ide odlicno), ali ne verujem da cemo za naseg zivota videti neku bitnu promenu na vrhu.
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Wow koja grdosija. 
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U.S. to Ban Laptops in All Cabins of Flights From Europe, Officials Say
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... rom-europe
Acting on fears that terrorists can build bombs into laptops, Homeland Security has decided to expand the ban it imposed on Middle Eastern flights. Computers will now be checked as baggage.
The Department of Homeland Security plans to ban laptops in the cabins of all flights from Europe to the United States, European security officials told The Daily Beast. The announcement is expected Thursday.
Initially a ban on laptops and tablets was applied only to U.S.-bound flights from 10 airports in North Africa and the Middle East. The ban was based on U.S. fears that terrorists have found a way to convert laptops into bombs capable of bringing down an airplane. It is unclear if the European ban will also apply to tablets.
DHS said in a statement to The Daily Beast: “No final decisions have been made on expanding the restriction on large electronic devices in aircraft cabins; however, it is under consideration. DHS continues to evaluate the threat environment and will make changes when necessary to keep air travelers safe.”
However, this move is increasing fears in the aviation industry that as well as guarding against bombs this ban could actually endanger flights. Laptops and tablets denied access to the cabin and added to checked baggage means that devices with a history of lithium-ion battery fires could set off a deadly conflagration in a cargo hold — where no one can put out the fires.
The FAA recorded 33 incidents in 2016 of personal electronic devices carried into cabins by passengers causing fire emergencies during flights, according to an FAA document reviewed by The Daily Beast. Of these, three were in laptops and two in tablets.
Two of the most serious were on Delta flights and both involved laptops.
On January 15, 2016 on a flight from Minneapolis to Atlanta fire broke out in a bag in an overhead bin shortly before landing. The smoke in the cabin became so overwhelming that when the flight reached the gate, passengers opened emergency exits over the wings and staff on the ramp helped them escape directly from the wings.
Flight attendants used halon fire suppressant extinguishers and water extinguishers to put out the fire, which had originated in two laptops.
On December 3, 2016 fire broke out in an overhead bin on a flight from Honolulu to Atlanta. Cabin crew needed three halon extinguishers and two water extinguishers to put out a fire originating in a laptop. For the rest of the flight the laptop was placed in a cooler with ice and monitored.
The FAA stressed that the 33 incidents are only ones that they are aware of. “This should not be considered as a complete listing of all such incidents…nor do they include all investigative and enforcement actions taken,” the documented stated.
Tests carried in 2015 by the FAA’s Fire Safety Branch have shown that halon gas is ineffective against fires originating in the kind of lithium-ion batteries used in laptops and tablets.
Even more to the point, these tests have revealed that the quantity of halon gas used in the automatic fire suppression systems of airplane cargo holds had no effect on a fire that begins as what is called a thermal runaway in a lithium-ion battery. Panels in the cargo hold designed to contain a fire were actually blown out in the tests, creating an explosion that would destroy an airplane.
Commenting on these tests, the Federation of Airline Pilots’ Associations, IFALPA, representing airline pilots worldwide, said, “In fact, the fire proceeded is if the halon were not present.”
Some Middle East airlines complained to the International Civil Aviation Organization that they had been unduly penalized by the original 10-country ban. In response, the ICAO said that it accepted that improvised explosive devices in electronic devices have been “the greatest security risk to commercial aircraft for some years.”
At the same time, they said, they have asked experts to examine the safety risk of a sudden influx of electronic devices in cargo holds. And Patrick Ky, a European safety regulator, told Reuters that his agency wants airlines to avoid placing all the electronic devices in checked baggage being in the same container in the cargo hold.
At London’s Heathrow Airport, where 17 percent of all flights to the U.S. originate, is adding an extra layer of security screening for those flights at the gates.
As The Daily Beast reported in March, the original ban placed on the 10 airports in North Africa and the Middle East followed intelligence gathered during a raid on Al Qaeda in Yemen in January. Bomb makers had managed to insert into batteries an explosive device powerful enough to bring down an airplane.
First indications of this came in 2016 when a hole was blown in the fuselage of an Airbus A320 as it was on its ascent from Mogadishu, Somalia. The airplane was able to make an emergency landing. The insurgent group Al-Shababb claimed that it had equipped a passenger with a laptop rigged as a bomb.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... rom-europe
Acting on fears that terrorists can build bombs into laptops, Homeland Security has decided to expand the ban it imposed on Middle Eastern flights. Computers will now be checked as baggage.
The Department of Homeland Security plans to ban laptops in the cabins of all flights from Europe to the United States, European security officials told The Daily Beast. The announcement is expected Thursday.
Initially a ban on laptops and tablets was applied only to U.S.-bound flights from 10 airports in North Africa and the Middle East. The ban was based on U.S. fears that terrorists have found a way to convert laptops into bombs capable of bringing down an airplane. It is unclear if the European ban will also apply to tablets.
DHS said in a statement to The Daily Beast: “No final decisions have been made on expanding the restriction on large electronic devices in aircraft cabins; however, it is under consideration. DHS continues to evaluate the threat environment and will make changes when necessary to keep air travelers safe.”
However, this move is increasing fears in the aviation industry that as well as guarding against bombs this ban could actually endanger flights. Laptops and tablets denied access to the cabin and added to checked baggage means that devices with a history of lithium-ion battery fires could set off a deadly conflagration in a cargo hold — where no one can put out the fires.
The FAA recorded 33 incidents in 2016 of personal electronic devices carried into cabins by passengers causing fire emergencies during flights, according to an FAA document reviewed by The Daily Beast. Of these, three were in laptops and two in tablets.
Two of the most serious were on Delta flights and both involved laptops.
On January 15, 2016 on a flight from Minneapolis to Atlanta fire broke out in a bag in an overhead bin shortly before landing. The smoke in the cabin became so overwhelming that when the flight reached the gate, passengers opened emergency exits over the wings and staff on the ramp helped them escape directly from the wings.
Flight attendants used halon fire suppressant extinguishers and water extinguishers to put out the fire, which had originated in two laptops.
On December 3, 2016 fire broke out in an overhead bin on a flight from Honolulu to Atlanta. Cabin crew needed three halon extinguishers and two water extinguishers to put out a fire originating in a laptop. For the rest of the flight the laptop was placed in a cooler with ice and monitored.
The FAA stressed that the 33 incidents are only ones that they are aware of. “This should not be considered as a complete listing of all such incidents…nor do they include all investigative and enforcement actions taken,” the documented stated.
Tests carried in 2015 by the FAA’s Fire Safety Branch have shown that halon gas is ineffective against fires originating in the kind of lithium-ion batteries used in laptops and tablets.
Even more to the point, these tests have revealed that the quantity of halon gas used in the automatic fire suppression systems of airplane cargo holds had no effect on a fire that begins as what is called a thermal runaway in a lithium-ion battery. Panels in the cargo hold designed to contain a fire were actually blown out in the tests, creating an explosion that would destroy an airplane.
Commenting on these tests, the Federation of Airline Pilots’ Associations, IFALPA, representing airline pilots worldwide, said, “In fact, the fire proceeded is if the halon were not present.”
Some Middle East airlines complained to the International Civil Aviation Organization that they had been unduly penalized by the original 10-country ban. In response, the ICAO said that it accepted that improvised explosive devices in electronic devices have been “the greatest security risk to commercial aircraft for some years.”
At the same time, they said, they have asked experts to examine the safety risk of a sudden influx of electronic devices in cargo holds. And Patrick Ky, a European safety regulator, told Reuters that his agency wants airlines to avoid placing all the electronic devices in checked baggage being in the same container in the cargo hold.
At London’s Heathrow Airport, where 17 percent of all flights to the U.S. originate, is adding an extra layer of security screening for those flights at the gates.
As The Daily Beast reported in March, the original ban placed on the 10 airports in North Africa and the Middle East followed intelligence gathered during a raid on Al Qaeda in Yemen in January. Bomb makers had managed to insert into batteries an explosive device powerful enough to bring down an airplane.
First indications of this came in 2016 when a hole was blown in the fuselage of an Airbus A320 as it was on its ascent from Mogadishu, Somalia. The airplane was able to make an emergency landing. The insurgent group Al-Shababb claimed that it had equipped a passenger with a laptop rigged as a bomb.
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Prvi put kompletno ženska posada u avionu Er Srbije
Prvi put u istoriji srpskog civilnog vazduhoplovstva danas će sa aerodroma Nikola Tesla avionom Er Srbije uzleteti kompletno ženska posada.
U kokpitu za komandama aviona Erbas A-320, na letu za Pariz u 17:05 sati, su kapetan Vesna Aleksić i kopilot Mirjana Stojilković, dok će u kabinskoj posadi biti Mirjana Popović, Silvija Madić, Tanja Stanković i Elena Ljubojević.
Vesna Aleksić leti kao kapetan u Er Srbiji od 2014. godine, ali ovo je prvi put da će u avionu biti ženski kokpit.
„Izuzetno mi je drago što ću danas leteti sa Mirjanom i što pišemo istoriju Er Srbije”, rekla je Vesna novinarima uoči leta.
Govoreći o tome kakve su reakcije putnika kada im se iz kabine obrati ženski glas, Vesna kaže da je u početku putnicima to bilo neobično, ali da su se već navikli pa su komentari uglavnom pozitivni.
Kaže da su i muškarci i žene bili podjednako iznenađeni kada čuju da žena upravlja avionom.
„Putnici su se već navikli, ima i onih koji često putuju sa nama i već nam iz kabinske posade prenose pozitivne komentare”, rekla je Vesna. Ona kaže da joj nije važno da li je kopilot muškarac ili žena jer su u Er Srbiji sve kolege profesionalc, sa kojima se dobro slaže i sarađuje, ali ipak ponavlja da se raduje letu sa koleginicom.
Vesnu i Mirjanu već 25. maja očekuje novi zajednički let. Vesna objašnjava da zbog velikog broja zaposlenih sistem planira i određuje ko će sa kim raditi, ali će njih dve već ovog meseca zajedno leteti dva puta.
Zajedničkom letu raduje se i kopilot Mirjana Stojiljković.
„Radujem se ovom danu, ponosna sam i srećna što letim sa Vesnom i što zajedno pišemo istoriju”, rekla je Mirjana.
U Er Srbiji ima šest žena pilota, a pre samo četiri godine nije bilo nijedne.
Vesna i Mirjana su dve žene piloti koje lete na Erbasu dok još jedna njihova koleginica upravlja ATR-om, a još tri pilotiraju Boingom 737.
Mirjana Popović kaže da nema nikakve razlike između muške i ženske pilotske posade jer svi oni svoj posao rade najbolje što umeju.
Srećan put na letu za Pariz ženskoj posadi poželo je i generalni direktor Er Srbije Dane Kondić koji ih je ispratio na prvi zajednički let.
(Tanjug)
Prvi put u istoriji srpskog civilnog vazduhoplovstva danas će sa aerodroma Nikola Tesla avionom Er Srbije uzleteti kompletno ženska posada.
U kokpitu za komandama aviona Erbas A-320, na letu za Pariz u 17:05 sati, su kapetan Vesna Aleksić i kopilot Mirjana Stojilković, dok će u kabinskoj posadi biti Mirjana Popović, Silvija Madić, Tanja Stanković i Elena Ljubojević.
Vesna Aleksić leti kao kapetan u Er Srbiji od 2014. godine, ali ovo je prvi put da će u avionu biti ženski kokpit.
„Izuzetno mi je drago što ću danas leteti sa Mirjanom i što pišemo istoriju Er Srbije”, rekla je Vesna novinarima uoči leta.
Govoreći o tome kakve su reakcije putnika kada im se iz kabine obrati ženski glas, Vesna kaže da je u početku putnicima to bilo neobično, ali da su se već navikli pa su komentari uglavnom pozitivni.
Kaže da su i muškarci i žene bili podjednako iznenađeni kada čuju da žena upravlja avionom.
„Putnici su se već navikli, ima i onih koji često putuju sa nama i već nam iz kabinske posade prenose pozitivne komentare”, rekla je Vesna. Ona kaže da joj nije važno da li je kopilot muškarac ili žena jer su u Er Srbiji sve kolege profesionalc, sa kojima se dobro slaže i sarađuje, ali ipak ponavlja da se raduje letu sa koleginicom.
Vesnu i Mirjanu već 25. maja očekuje novi zajednički let. Vesna objašnjava da zbog velikog broja zaposlenih sistem planira i određuje ko će sa kim raditi, ali će njih dve već ovog meseca zajedno leteti dva puta.
Zajedničkom letu raduje se i kopilot Mirjana Stojiljković.
„Radujem se ovom danu, ponosna sam i srećna što letim sa Vesnom i što zajedno pišemo istoriju”, rekla je Mirjana.
U Er Srbiji ima šest žena pilota, a pre samo četiri godine nije bilo nijedne.
Vesna i Mirjana su dve žene piloti koje lete na Erbasu dok još jedna njihova koleginica upravlja ATR-om, a još tri pilotiraju Boingom 737.
Mirjana Popović kaže da nema nikakve razlike između muške i ženske pilotske posade jer svi oni svoj posao rade najbolje što umeju.
Srećan put na letu za Pariz ženskoj posadi poželo je i generalni direktor Er Srbije Dane Kondić koji ih je ispratio na prvi zajednički let.
(Tanjug)
