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[Geza]

Mercedes is Working on a New Naming Convention, Again
http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2018 ... again.html

Mercedes-Benz has filed trademark applications in Canada and multiple other markets for a number of nameplates for both standard series production models and AMGs.

The German automaker has filed trademark applications for A 40, CLA 40, SLC 40, SLC 50 and GLE 50 in Canada, and has also filed to reserve CLA 50 in Germany and globally with the World Intellectual Property Organization. In the past, Mercedes has reserved two-digit nomenclatures for AMG performance models, but we have our doubts these are for AMGs. Instead, we think they are part of a revised Mercedes naming structure that could see it toss out three-digit nameplates, such as CLA250, in favor of two-digit ones like CLA 40, for example.

The automaker also filed trademarks for names that are likely for AMG models, however. These include CLA 53, G73 and S73. This supports recent rumors that the ’73’ nameplate would return on AMG models equipped with the automaker’s new hybrid performance drivetrain, which is expected to make up to 805 hp from a 4.0-liter V8 and electric motor. The automaker also rolled out the CLS 53 and E 53 at the recent Detroit auto show, which is powered by an inline-six hybrid powertrain making 430 hp. We figured ’53’ would find its way to other Mercedes vehicles, although we’re a bit surprised to see it appear on the CLA.

There’s one last trademark that Mercedes filed in Canada as well: Turbo 48. This badge is a bit different than the others, but we think it’s reserved for vehicles equipped with turbocharged engines and the 48V mild hybrid system that will appear on virtually every Mercedes product going forward. We could see it being used in a similar way to the ‘Biturbo’ badge seen on some Mercedes’ cars, or the old ‘Kompressor’ tag.

Mercedes recently said AMG variants of the new G-Class will arrive for the 2019 model year, meaning they will debut sometime this year – likely at the 2018 Genvea Motor Show in March. That means we could see the so-called ‘G73’ shortly. Additionally, the new A-Class is slated to be shown tomorrow, so we may see the ‘A 40’, and Mercedes may even provide more details on this new naming structure.

Mercedes declined to comment on the trademark filings when asked.

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Why?

[speedy stikis]

Daimler najavio velike troškove ove godine



Nemački proizvođač automobila Dajmler, koji je prošle godine zaradio dosta novca, saopštio je da će ove godine morati da potroši velike iznose kako bi održao korak s tehnološkim promenama za koje se očekuje da izazovu poremećaje u automobilskoj industriji.

Kompanija koja proizvodi luksuzne automobile Mercedes-Benc saopštila je da se njena zarada suočava ove godine s “veoma visokim” izdacima zbog novih modela i tehnologija, kao što su električni automobili, navodi AP.

Kao i druge automobilske kompanije, Dajmler se priprema za očekivani prelaz na automatska vozila bez vozača i na korišćennje prevoznih usluga preko aplikacija za pametne telefone.

Posle rekordnog profita od 10,9 milijardi evra prethodne godine, kompanija je iznela procenu za ovu godinu, navodeći da će operativna zarada biti slična “prošlogodišnjoj magnitudi” umesto povećanja.

Dajmler je naveo da će troškove istraživanja i razvoja blago povećati u 2018. godini, posle 8,7 milijardi evra troškova u 2017. godini, što je bio rast od 15 odsto.

Akcije kompanije su izgubile vrednost na berzi posle objave kompanije o troškovima u 2018. godini

[ROCK]

Zar ovo nije namenjeno Mercedes temi?

[speedy stikis]

Auuu jbt ala sam omasio, preko moba sam pa nisam video

@Geza molim te premesti u Mercedes

[Laki021]

Svaka cast, tako to radi ozbiljna kompanija, 11 milijardi profita. Svaki dan sve vise i vise povecavaju razvojni budzet, to im samo garantuje svetlu buducnost.
S druge strane neke koje stvaraju mnogo vise buke loze 4 milijarde godisnje...


Ovo isto vazi i za BMW i Mercedes.

[Xepoj87]

[Laki021]

Malo vise, za sada nepotvrdjenih detalja o tome kako je Mercedes varao na testovima zagadjenja:

https://www.engadget.com/2018/02/18/dai ... -cheating/

Daimler may have used software to cheat on US emissions tests

Daimler reportedly developed software with several functions to be able to trick US regulators. One called "Bit 15" was designed to switch off emissions cleaning after 16 miles of driving, while another called "Slipguard" can detect if the car is being tested based on speed and acceleration. Bild am Sonntag said it found emails from Daimler engineers questioning whether those functions were legal.

[igor_harris]

http://www.petrolheads.rs/test/mercedes ... mohikanci/

[Xepoj87]

Laki, pa svi u sustini rade slicno.
To mi je slicno onome sto u realnosti imamo, kojekakve uredjaje koji sakate auto da bi postigli neke nize potrosnje, a u realnosti su kroz ovih xx godina uspeli da smanje potrosnju za mozda 10-20% uvrh glave.
Evo bas o tome malo i u ovom Igorovom tekstu.

Igore, ovo mi je najzanimljiviji deo teksta:

A onda na google naletim i na ovo: Car Makers Are Finally Admitting That Downsizing Was A Stupid Waste Of Time And Money. The fact is that those of us who always said that it was idiotic to stick tiny turbocharged engines in anything bigger than a shoe were right. Car makers are beginning to raise the CC count again in the wake of studies proving that real-world fuel consumption in newer engines is getting worse and that actual emissions levels are about as close to the official stats as tofu is to bacon.

[Laki021]

Ovo je ipak malo drugacije jer namena i nije smanjenje potrosnje goriva vec smanjenje potrosnje AdBlue-a, u principu ista prica kao i VW.

Mercedes je ovo vec priznao indirektno pre nekih 6 meseci, u izvestaju o poslovanju su najavili da ocekuju kaznu jer kako rekose, to sto njihov software radi se ispostavilo nelegalnim.

Svakako se nadam da je zaista kako rekose ovo sto su novine prenele izvuceno iz konteksta i da ce ih tuziti i skinuti im kozu s ledja za tu objavu.

[Xepoj87]

Pa i kod Bmwa su nasli 7 puta vise od dozvoljene granice azota, kada su ga vozili iznad propisanih procedura merenja.

https://cleantechnica.com/2017/12/06/di ... -bmw-next/\

Ja se iskreno nadam da ce sve manje i manje dizela biti, a da ce benzinci postajati sve bolji, kao i hibridi
Kod hibrida mi se svidja sto mogu da budu korisni da umanje lag i da bas daju ostrinu vozilu, kada se za to koristi.

[Laki021]

Ovo sa BMW-om nema veze sa procedurama merenja vec sa normalnom i namerno pogresnom voznjom. Mogli su auto da voze i samo u prvoj brzini, imali bi jos gore rezultate.

BMW su testirali 100x nakon Dieselgate-a i nikada nisu uspeli da nadju nesto, kako sada stvari stoje, kod njih izgleda ne postoje softwarske varke. Mozda ce nesto isplivati u buducnosti, ali vec u ovom trenutku tako nesto deluje jako malo verovatno jer bi vec bilo otkriveno.

[Mladen7]

...onome sto u realnosti imamo, kojekakve uredjaje koji sakate auto da bi postigli neke nize potrosnje, a u realnosti su kroz ovih xx godina uspeli da smanje potrosnju za mozda 10-20% uvrh glave.

To je po meni suština.
Na silu dostizanje nekih zacrtanih normi koje su nametnuti, a koje u realnosti teško da se postižu/ bez obzira na brend/.
Ili se dostignu u određenom vremenskom periodu pa onda odjednom pufffff sve nazad u vazduh

Pitanje je samo koliko se detaljno pristupi proveri u realnim uslovima i određenom vremenskom periodu/ kilometraži, to do sada deluje da se radi vrlo selektivno.



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