BMW serije 5 F10

[Floyd]

Poredjenje 550i i M5 iz ugla jednog amatera i vlasnika oba modela.

I picked up my new M5 on Friday (8/24/12) and have only driven about 250 miles cruising around this weekend. I have so many things I would like to cover - but I will try to start with some key areas that I had been curious about prior to getting my M5.

I had been driving a 2012 F10 550i M Sport since I purchased it in March of this year. I originally had hoped to get the M5 at the beginning of 2012 - it looked as though the US would be getting it along with the rest of the world. As we all found out, this was not to be - but great things come to those who wait, right? In my case, I can be a very impatient person. Having driven and owned many different BMW and BMW M models I thought the 550 would pacify my "need" for the M5. It looked similar anyway. Well, that is where the similarity ends, hands down. I am going to touch briefly on a few key areas, mainly because I have not driven the M5 long enough yet. I hope to follow up after my 1200 mile break-in period, once I have a chance to embellish a bit with my right foot. For now, I have left the car in the "efficient" setting which yields the lowest throttle response.

To start with, I have absolutely no complaints about my 550. I go on record to say that I was 100% satisfied with this car. It was flawless - perfectly built without any problems whatsoever. With the M Sport package - it is truly a beautiful looking automobile. Still aggressive and "sporty", but slightly less so in appearance when compared to the M5. In my case and opinion - it would be the 20" wheels and the front end differences that set it apart ever so slightly. Wider flared front fenders and the front air intake is a bit larger, pointing out further on each side where the fog lights are on the 550. Again, I was very happy with the 550 - if it were not for the new M5 (and my own insanity), I would have been satisfied driving it for a long while.

But we could argue about the cosmetic differences forever - it really is very subjective. Everyone has their own opinion. Let me get to the first thing that I found out right away after driving the new M5 - steering and overall ride.

I am not a professional driver and not competent on a track. As such, I suspect that I am at least a capable and experienced driver that is certainly confident while sitting behind the wheel. This being said, I was uncertain of how the debate on electric versus hydraulic steering mattered. So far, this has been the most noticeable difference between the two cars. I kept reading and hearing reviews talk about the feedback from the steering wheel and knowing where the tires were on the road, etc. Not only do you "feel" every bump and divot on the highway, you feel the front wheels pull at your hands when turning. I suspect this is part of what people are referring to when describing the advantages of hydraulic steering. Again, I am not a professional driver and struggle to describe what I have noticed here. The 550's electric steering is simply numb in comparison. No feedback whatsoever. I can say however that the 550 is a bit easier to maneuver around a parking lot - much of this is probably attributable to my model's Integral Active Steering option though.

As far as the ride is concerned - there is a significant difference in how the cars feel here as well. Both have EDC/damper control. My 550 has 4 modes (comfort+, comfort, sport and sport+) whereas the M5 has 3 modes (comfort, sport and sport+). The names may be similar between the two cars, but the actual functionality of the modes is very different. For example - comfort is listed on both cars but the comfort mode on the M5 is somewhere closer to sport on the 550. That isn't to say that the M5 is not comfortable - it is very comfortable, just in a different manner. A bit firmer (not harsh though). You just get a very confident feeling when driving the M5 in contrast to the 550. The 550, although still a refined BMW, is just "softer" in every way. Don't get me wrong - it still has 400 ponies and 450 lb. ft. of torque - it hauls if you want it to, no trouble at all. On each of the damper settings, the M5 is simply a notch tighter than the 550, in a good way for me. Both of these cars can be adjusted to operate very different as well - depending on a number of settings. The M5 obviously has more settings to play with - the 550 has the EDC and transmission/throttle response adjustments, depending on which of the 4 modes the car is in.

A quick note on the transmission differences - My 550 has the 8 speed sport automatic transmission. It is very smooth and has very short gears on the low end. Obviously the DCT can perform/shift faster and handles the increased torque of the M5. Although I have not pushed the M5 yet – they react completely different. Again, the 550 has a “softer” feel – the first gear shift almost seems to come on too early. So far, using the efficient and comfort mode on the M5, I already like it more. I cannot wait until I get a chance to try more aggressive settings. I really think the transmission is where the M5 shines so well – even the audible whine of the gears comes into the cabin as you drive. It reminds you what you’re driving is not just an ordinary car.

Please let me know if there is anything specific that you wish to ask regarding my experience with these cars, especially the M5. I plan on driving the M5 this week and returning with more to say about it. I will work on posting some shots of the cars side by side as well while I still have the 550 - I am in the process of selling it. I do not plan on keeping it - there is really no reason to have 2 F10 sedans. It's just not the same now anyway – I think it’s jealous of the M5.

[7footer]

И ја то видех. Одличне слике... Шта све људи возе тамо, да ти не буде добро.

[trojanac]

Započeta diskusija o zvuku auspuha izdvojena u novu temu... viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1237

[Geza]

BMW's Secret HP Boost Scheme Exposed via M5 Dyno Run

Exhaust specialist IND Distribution got its hands on a F10 BMW M5, a stock 2013 model and, before thinking about playing with its tech bits and pieces, it took the car to the dyno, as you can see in the video above, which comes from M5post. The result? a pretty interesting one...

The M5 was recorded at 527 WHP (wheel horsepower) and since the usual power loss between the crank and the wheels for this kind of car is estimated at 15 percent, this means that the 4.4-liter twin-turbo V8 under the hood is not churning out 560 hp as BMW claims, but 620 hp. IND Distribution also placed the car on a scale, where it exceeded BMW’s official specs by a figure that can be neglected.

All this makes quite a lot of sense, as this BMW scheme has been previously talked about. It seems that the Bavarian carmaker’s engines actually deliver more power than the official specs show. Want a proof? Check out the standing start acceleration times for virtually every model in the range, then compare it to cars that come with a similar power/weight official ratio and a close technical setup and you’ll see that the Bimmers always take the lead. This could only happen if... their engines were actually more powerful.

What can we say? We really can’t be upset by this (in fact we’re thrilled), since it makes BMWs accelerate faster and especially if we add up the thing that they’re also rather frugal machines, for their segments, of course, thanks to the use of Efficient Dynamics technology. But we'd like to know the truth...



http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=740823

[ftj]

Ima i ono da u zavisnosti od podešavanja i vrste dyno-a prikažu različite vrednosti. Ali ovo je svakako prevelika cifra da bi se poricalo da ima više od 560 ks.

Sećam se kad je izašo e63 amg sa atmosferskim motorom na mbworld forumu se javilo 10 njih koji nisu uspeli da postignu ni približnu konjažu na merenju.

[Floyd]

Pa moguce je da deklarisu manju snagu
320d ima zvanicno samo 20% vecu snagu od Alfe 147 JTDM ali i 15% vecu tezinu a ide po mojoj slobodnoj proceni bar 30% bolje.

[Laki021]

Nije retko da deklarisu manju snagu, ne znam zasto. Moguce da ne bi bilo da neko meri u ne idealnim uslovima pa izmeri manje pa onda pise po forumima...
Sa druge strane, za 328i mi je jasno zasto su deklarisali 245ks umesto bar 265ks koliko se prica da ima jer u italiji se debelo porezuju vozila preko 250ks... Za M5, ebem li ga, zar ne bi mocnije zvucalo 620 nego 560

[dragvorl]

Nadam se da nije bilo

F10 5 Series and M5 LCI Facelift Production Starts July 2013. First Spy Pics Are In.

UPDATE 10/17: Better spy photos of the F10 LCI prototype now show a new squared off angel eyes (coronal lights) shape, which has started to appear on BMWs beginning with the latest 3 Series, 6 Series, and 7 Series..

The first F10 5 Series Sedan and F07 5 Series GT LCI (facelift) update prototypes have now been spotted. This will facelift the entire 5 Series lineup, including the F10 sedan, F11 touring, F07 GT, and the F10 M5.

We have information which shows production for the F10 LCI as beginning in July 2013, with deliveries starting in August/September of 2013.

EXTERIOR

The prototype F10 LCI shows slightly sportier side mirrors, with integrated turn signals (still camouflaged). The headlights will get LED lights, squared off angel eyes (coronal lights) and may see some additional LED lighting elements, and the tail light graphics will receive a new look.

The front and rear bumpers will also receive styling updates. We can already make out one of the biggest styling changes in the front fascia - a new character line appears between the upper part of the kidney grilles and the area right above the headlights, which should give the headlight/grille area a more aggressive look. The M Sport package aero parts will also receive a slight refresh, as well as the F10's optional M Performance accessories parts.

POWERTRAIN

The updated F10 5 Series will cure one of the F10's main complaints - poor steering. The F10's steering is being re-engineered to be more communicative. The changes will also apply to the touring and GT models.

The 535i models will receive the inline turbo 6 cylinder engine which will replace the current N55 and is expected to debut in the F32 4 Series Coupe. Expect the 550i models to be powered by the uprated V8 N63Tu (the update to the N63 engine) which recently appeared in the F07 550i GT and is good for +45hp / +30 lb-ft torque over the N63 engine.

F10 M5

The F10 M5 should see the same lighting updates (headlights, tail lights, and perhaps integrated turn signal in its mirror), and potentially the new character line between the grilles and headlights as well, but we expect it to retain its current front and rear bumper designs. Overall, the F10 M5 should receive minimal exterior updates.







http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=758869

[Scuderia]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... 3qjDQw_kpQ

6MT

[Scuderia]

BMW M5 (F10) by Pixelklinik, on Flickr


BMW M5 F10 by MartijnBeekmans.com, on Flickr


BMW M5 by CiprianMihai, on Flickr


BMW M5 by CiprianMihai, on Flickr


BMW M5 F10 by Automotiveart.nl, on Flickr


M5 F10 by Raoul Automotive Photography, on Flickr


BMW M5 F10, Admiralty, Hong Kong by Kevin Ho 車 Photography, on Flickr

[Kuzmanovic]

Koliko je dobra ova M plava boja.

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[Floyd]

Izgleda da sam ja jedini kome se ova boja na BMW-u bas nesto i ne dopada

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[Laki021]

Nemas ti pojma

[Kuzmanovic]

Floyd momentalno postavljaj BMW-a na oglase i predji na neki drugi brend. Kakav si ti to vozac BMW-a kada ti se ne svidja boja koja se nalazi cak i na znaku.

[Floyd]

Pa ja vozim BMW ali to ne znaci da sam fanboy brenda.
Nemam nista protiv boje ali mi se na autu ne svidja...BMW-u lepse stoje tamnije nego vesele gay boje.

To je svakako stvar ukusa a ne znanja

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