VW Golf VII

[Xepoj87]

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[Uroš S.]

Neće biti atmosferaca u Vagenu od ove godine, to samo kod nas da rasprodaju lagere :roll: . Startni će sigurno biti slabiji 1.2TSI, od 86ks, mada je on sigurno bolji od starog 1.4 jer ima skor 30% veći obrtni(~130 naspram 160Nm).

[Geza]

Cancel the ST: next Golf GTI scooped
http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/new- ... 2012-01-30

The next VW Golf GTI will be faster and notably lighter and more sophisticated than the one they build now. And that's hardly shabby. This will be the seventh generation of the dynastic hot hatch, and it's due in 2012.

Part of its secret is that it will be more different from the base Golf 7s than today's GTI is from the basic Mk6s.

The current Mk6 is of course not much more than a heavily facelifted Mk5. But the Mk7 is all-new, sitting on an entirely fresh and highly configurable VW Group platform called MQB.

Model for model, new Golfs will be at least 70kg lighter than the ones they replace. Savings come from extra high-strength steel in the shell, optimised suspensions, and lighter engines and ancillaries.

But there's more to it than that. Volkswagen has patented a special welding process that means it can build GTI bodyshells with aluminium roofs, mixed up along the production line with steel-roofed regular Golfs. This means the weight drop for the GTI will be about 100kg compared with now, because it will have aluminium welded into the shell as well as in bolt-ons like the bonnet.

That's enough to be felt. The car will be more agile, and with less weight to pull the engine it will have an easier time of it. We understand that the motor won't go much beyond about 230bhp, but by switching to the Audi Valvelift system, it will be torquier than today - up to nearly 260lb ft.

There is lots of progress that will make the handling even sharper than now. For a start the new shell will help both weight reduction and weight distribution. Also the front wheels of all Golfs will be 40mm further forward than now, so the car should feel less nose-heavy. Traction will be better, thanks to a new type of electronically controlled mechanical limited-slip diff, rather than the brake-based traction control the Mk6 currently uses.

The suspension uses all-new parts, though the principles are similar to today. And there's a new steering rack that gets more direct on lock - unusual in an electric system.

And the notion of a decent diesel GTI gets closer, too. Today's 170bhp GTD TDI isn't bad for sure. But the new one will have an engine from a brand-new diesel family, making 190bhp and 280lb ft, and using balancer shafts for smoothness.

Electronic options take a step ahead, too: forward cameras for lane-keeping and auto-braking, and radar cruise (mind you, there's some on the Ford Focus already). There will also be a new Audi-developed top-end hi-fi/nav/connectivity system that uses an eight-inch capacitive touchscreen - as per an iPad - for far more accurate control and higher definition. It also has a proximity sensor, so it can show an uncluttered map, say, but when your finger gets close it'll switch to showing buttons.

All of which sounds pretty juicy. But there's one more thing. The new MQB is a colossal project. It spans and integrates every transverse-front-engined model from a Polo to a Passat, including all the brands and several crossovers. It includes components, systems, design processes and factories far more than ever before. So VW's engineering chief Ulrich Hackenberg says the parts cost will be 20 percent less than now, and the development and tooling cost for each model will be 30 percent less than now, and the manufacturing cost will be 30 percent less than now.

Simply put, this new GTI should be a whole lot better value.

[dag81]

lele, pa koliko ce da kosta G VII kad kazu da ce uspeti da smanje troskove i do 30%.
Mozda cemo voziti G VII za 13000e sa TSI motorom, ko zna. :lol:

Mada svidja mi se, bar sa ovih slika sto su postavljene. Ne znam sta su odradili sa enterijerom.

[swemir]

vidim ja da ce to da bude golf 7 generacion :lol: :lol:

[dag81]

[Texonja]

Moze da bude 13.000 , ali u osnovnoj opremi. Doplata za kocioni sistem 1000 eur, doplata za volan 800 eur, doplata za rucicu menjaca 500 eur, ... A bice i doplate za cutting edge tehnologije kao sto su ABS, Airbag i ESP, ali to je ionako za shonje...
Standardno za Wagen, ali sta cu kad ga volim!

[dragan]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Floyd]

:lol: :lol:

Samo ne znam zbog cega bi mu spustili cenu kad se i ovako prodaje "ko alva".

[Laki021]

Ko kaze da ce spustati cenu, samo ceimati 3x vecu zaradu po komadu

[Stjepa]

Iscitavali su preko dve godine medjusobna prepucavanja clanova jednog foruma gde su postojale dve glavne grupe - ljubitelji VW-a & "mrzitelji" istog, pardon ljubitelji Renaulta. Problem im jeste bio sto su konverzacije vodjene na za njih nepoznatom jeziku, no prebrodili su tu barijeru uz pomoc гугл преводиоца.
Nakon opseznog iztrazivanja su utvrdili da najvecem fanu VW brenda ne treba ni klima ni servo... u stvari sta da ponavljam ono sto je Tex napisao

cutting edge tehnologije kao sto su ABS, Airbag i ESP, ali to je ionako za shonje...

Takoreci dosli su do zakljucka da mogu ponovo pokrenuti iste robote koji su korisceni za sklapanje Golfa II (slavljen bio isti; nevernik je svako ko se ne prekrsti pri pomenu njegovog imena). Vracanje vec visestruko otplacenih robota je znacajno uticalo na smanjenje troskova.
Zatim su naisli na kritike druge struje koja zamera vagenu toliko debeo lim, precizan menjac od celicnih elemenata, zazore kojih nema izmedju prednjih i zadnjih vrata, taj neki hladni distancirani trdi stav koji odlikuje vozilo... Povodom toga su resili da angazuju zanatsko preduzece "Jeftina plastika" u proizvodnji zupcanika i drugih komponenti skrivenih od ociju vozaca. Menjac je poprimio preko potrebnu labavost, volan takodje... Vrata su odjednom izgubila "e taj zvuk" kada se zatvaraju.
Citajuci podatke sa istog mesta naisli su na bitnu cinjenicu da postoji jedna struja koja preferira rat style, koji njihov ljubimac poprima nakon 5, 6 godina. Prvo po rubovima, pragovima... Odgovor su nasli u fabrickom postrojenju Opela.
Kada su sve zelje stavili na papir dosli su do veomma bitnih podataka: novi Golf ce biti jeftiniji od Megane-a i time ce konacno pridobiti one koji su ga najvise pljuvali; od opreme nece imati nista pa ce i dalje imati uz sebe vecite pobornike "narodnog auta"; vozilo ce kupovati i Opelovci jer ce kroz 5 godina dobiti ono sto su mogli samo kod jednog brenda.
Sve u svemu usteda je bila neverovatnih 50% posto, ali su ipak resili da ostanu verni svojim kupcima i da ih i ovaj put oderu koliko god se to moze za sto manje dobijenog pa ce taj procenat samo zarad bolje prodaje korigovati na ustedu od astronomskih 30%. :smesko:

[Texonja]

Stjepo, da se pokrene proizvodnja Golfa II ponovo sa 30+ god starim dizel motorom od 1.600cc i da se prodaje kod nas po nekoj ceni kao recimo Punto Classic, ja ti garantujem celokupnom svojom imovinom da bi se prodavao 3x vise od Punta. Svidelo se to tebi i meni ili ne - tako je! :mig:
A licno, da mene neko pita da li hocu nov Golf II D ili nov Punto Classic, dobro bih se pocesao i razmislio sta bih uzeo.

[kvcali]

Pa naravno da je golf bolje resenje, "cvrsci" je auto od punta, jeftiniji (prostiji) za odrzavanje, a po opremi su slicni

[Stjepa]

@Tex pisano je satiricno. :smesko:

[Texonja]

Shvatio sam, ali sam se ovog setio dok sam se krstio kada si pomenuo Golfa 2