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Ručicu menjača uzeli od iberzokne?

Mnogo je lepši od Tesle unutra, samo ne razumem taj centralni displej pod tim uglom. Koliko je ''gledljiv''?

Prvi slucaj da je neko nastradao koristeci autopilot.

https://www.teslamotors.com/de_CH/blog/ ... edirect=no

A Tragic Loss

The Tesla Team 30. Juni 2016
We learned yesterday evening that NHTSA is opening a preliminary evaluation into the performance of Autopilot during a recent fatal crash that occurred in a Model S. This is the first known fatality in just over 130 million miles where Autopilot was activated. Among all vehicles in the US, there is a fatality every 94 million miles. Worldwide, there is a fatality approximately every 60 million miles. It is important to emphasize that the NHTSA action is simply a preliminary evaluation to determine whether the system worked according to expectations.

Following our standard practice, Tesla informed NHTSA about the incident immediately after it occurred. What we know is that the vehicle was on a divided highway with Autopilot engaged when a tractor trailer drove across the highway perpendicular to the Model S. Neither Autopilot nor the driver noticed the white side of the tractor trailer against a brightly lit sky, so the brake was not applied. The high ride height of the trailer combined with its positioning across the road and the extremely rare circumstances of the impact caused the Model S to pass under the trailer, with the bottom of the trailer impacting the windshield of the Model S. Had the Model S impacted the front or rear of the trailer, even at high speed, its advanced crash safety system would likely have prevented serious injury as it has in numerous other similar incidents.

It is important to note that Tesla disables Autopilot by default and requires explicit acknowledgement that the system is new technology and still in a public beta phase before it can be enabled. When drivers activate Autopilot, the acknowledgment box explains, among other things, that Autopilot “is an assist feature that requires you to keep your hands on the steering wheel at all times," and that "you need to maintain control and responsibility for your vehicle” while using it. Additionally, every time that Autopilot is engaged, the car reminds the driver to “Always keep your hands on the wheel. Be prepared to take over at any time.” The system also makes frequent checks to ensure that the driver's hands remain on the wheel and provides visual and audible alerts if hands-on is not detected. It then gradually slows down the car until hands-on is detected again.

We do this to ensure that every time the feature is used, it is used as safely as possible. As more real-world miles accumulate and the software logic accounts for increasingly rare events, the probability of injury will keep decreasing. Autopilot is getting better all the time, but it is not perfect and still requires the driver to remain alert. Nonetheless, when used in conjunction with driver oversight, the data is unequivocal that Autopilot reduces driver workload and results in a statistically significant improvement in safety when compared to purely manual driving.

The customer who died in this crash had a loving family and we are beyond saddened by their loss. He was a friend to Tesla and the broader EV community, a person who spent his life focused on innovation and the promise of technology and who believed strongly in Tesla’s mission. We would like to extend our deepest sympathies to his family and friends.

nidza napisao:Silueta je klasična, zasečen napred kao da je trebala maska za hladnjak da bude, pa je samo zapušena, mnogo su hrabriji Japanci (i ružniji).

Nema motor, prenos, kardan, ima malecke motore na svakom točku, baterije po patosu, itd...

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Aurodinamik, zastita pesaka, gepek?
Koji to Japanci imaju hrabriji dizajn?
Dodatno, jesi upravo rekao da treba da bude ruzniji?



Laki, htedoh to da okacim, bilo je samo pitanje vremena, ne smem ni da zamislim sta bi bilo da je uzorak automobila koje vozi autopilot veci od atatisticke greske.

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Koliko je ljudi u ime nauke i napretka ginulo. Ovakav slucaj u poslednje vreme dugo nije bio, ranije su ginuli ko zacevi.

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Ja se iskreno čudim da ih nije i više izginulo, obzirom da je reč o zemlji gde i na retrovizoru mora da piše da slika u njemu nije realna, da neko to što vidi u njemu ne bi odmah uzeo zdravo za gotovo, pa proizvođač kasnije "popasao" tužbu i plaćao debelu odštetu. Verujem da su mnogi kupci Tesle taj autopilot shvatili kao zgodan "feature" da se dremne još koji minut do posla (ili eto odgleda film), a ujedno se i divim Tesli na hrabrosti da tako nešto uopšte i puste tako brzo u komercijalnu upotrebu, obzirom na današnji nivo razvijenosti saobraćajnica i nivo "(ne)sinhronizacije" sa ostatkom učesnika u saobraćaju.

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Piše i uputstvu za auto pilot da ne bi trebalo skidati ruke sa volana. Budalaština od ideje što se mene tiče.

Nije budalaština jer isto tako je možda nekad davno neko govorio i za tempomat, a evo sada maltene i ne možemo bez njega. Ja taj autopilot shvatam (u ovom trenutku) kao neki unapređeni tempomat. Ne samo da ume da održava brzinu i prikoči kad zatreba, nego ume i da drži auto u traci na autoputu pa čak i da izmanevriše prepreku i pređe iz trake u traku po potrebi. I to je to. Daleko je još to od toga kada ćemo ući u auto i reći "vozi me tamo i tamo" i moći da baš odspavamo do destinacije. Za dosadne autoputeve savršena stvar.

Da stopila se sa pozadinom, nije nego. Jbt pa te sistem treba ucetrovorostuciti, ako bilo koji zakaze da drugi moze da odreaguje.

Neozbiljno od Tesle.

Ovu Foku necu da komentarisem. Amerikanci us bukvalisti nenormalni.

Ko zna šta se tu tačno desilo. Zato je i Tesla odmah istupila i pozvala nadležne da bi minimalizovali očekivanu štetu.

TT

Valjda je isti lik postavio onaj snimak "Tesla save"

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Koliko sam razumeo objasnjenje koje je dato svetlost od sunca koja je isla ka automobilu je bila toliko jaka da ni covek ni autopilot nisu mogli da prepoznaju da dolazi kamion.

Tako nesto.

Čoveku da se desi ajde i nekako, ali tehnici nikako. Ako koristi lidar za detektovanje prepreka(ili bilo koju tehniku zasnovanu da detkciji svetlosti), zašto nema iobičan radar za prednju zonu. Taj sunce ne može da zaslepi, i prevari. Neverovatno mi je da se autopilot zasniva na samo jednom sistemu koji može da bude ometen u radu na bilo koji način.

Tesla Model S nema LiDAR, samo optiku, jedan radar i 360° sonar. Koliko se ja razumem (a ne razumem se mnogo) LiDAR je kritično važan za tu neku pravu autonomnu vožnju...

Saša napisao:Nije budalaština jer isto tako je možda nekad davno neko govorio i za tempomat, a evo sada maltene i ne možemo bez njega. Ja taj autopilot shvatam (u ovom trenutku) kao neki unapređeni tempomat.

Unapređeni tempomat postoji i zove se adaptativni. Sistem koji i volan uzima pod svoje je bez poente ako traži od tebe da ipak držiš ruke na volanu.

Neko ne može bez tempomata a ja ga baš retko koristim.

Ja ga ni nemam

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