Ratna tehnika

[Heineken]

Videcemo kako ce biti, dok ne vidim svojim ocima bas im i ne verujem...

[Velja]

http://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php ... _id=792530

[kvcali]

ode cica, nek mu je laka zemlja, inace danas je godisnjica i smrti andreja tupoljeva konstruktora aviona umro je 23.12.1972

[zuzazu]

Moze se naici na mnoge tvrdnje da je Kalasnjikov bukvalno prekopirao nemacku Sturmgewehr 44 , ali....

"The AK-47 is not a direct copy or clone of the STG-44.
For starters, they fire a different cartridge. The AK-47 is chambered in 7.62x39mm, and the STG-44 in 7.92x33mm. Further, Kalishnikov (the creator of the AK-47) used the locking lug design of the M1 Garand and the trigger and safety group designed by John M. Browning. Finally, the AK action is a rotating bolt and the STG is a tilting bolt. So, there are clearly some differences.



That said, it seems pretty clear that Kalishnikov heavily borrowed from the STG-44. The two main pieces of evidence:

1) The overall design and form of the weapon is very, very similar. In fact, people who don't know much about guns often mistake a STG-44 for an AK-47.

2) Hugo Schmeisser, the man who designed by the STG-44, was captured by the Russians in 1945 and forced to work on weapon design for them. Schmeisser was not allowed to go home until 1952. Those seven years Schmeisser was working in the USSR match up pretty neatly with the development of the AK-47.

Kalishnikov (who is still alive), denies to this day that he copied the STG-44. And in a literal sense, he is correct. There are significant differences. On the other hand, the similarities are obvious even to someone who knows little about guns.

My personal view: Kalishnikov should get credit for significantly improving on the German STG-44. But would he have invented the AK-47 if the Germans hadn't invented the STG-44? I doubt it."

[superboss]

mislim da je zivak jedan od boljih komandanata rv i pvo u poslednje vreme....profesionalno sam ga upoznao i imali smo par kracih razgovora dok je bio na mnogo nizim pozicijama i zvucao mi je skroz ok, kao osoba sa kojom moze da se komunicira...

Boldovano je ključno za ono što sam rekao. Možda kod njega to stvarno nije slučaj, ali dosta njih sa napredovanjem promeni stavove i ponašanje: na manje bitnim dužnostima(naročito zameničkim) biće kao med i mleko, a kad dođe na "odlučivačku" funkciju postaju jako zajebani(njhovo dupe je mnogo više u procepu). Ne sporim ja da je on verovatno dobar čovek, ali činjenica je da se svi oni(vojni vrh) slabo "bodu" sa državnim vrhom.

Šta vojsci treba zna profesionalni vojnik posle 3meseca službe. Ne volim ovakve izjave-kao rekao sam nešto pametno, a srž problema se prećutkuje.

Svake godine se borbena gotovost VS ocenjuje sa vrlodobrom ocenom...a sitacija nije realno ni za keca. Na stranu zastarela oprema, ajde to i da razumem. Ali to što je ljudstvo mnogo slabije obučeno nego što bi trebalo-i što se obuka žrtvuje zarad nekih drugih apsolutno nebitnih stvari-e to neću i ne mogu da razumem.

Možda je u RV po tom pitanju malo bolji, ali u KOV-u(u kojima ima jedinica PVO) situacija je loša.

[dragan]

verovatno jeste malo bolje u rv, ali ni blizu onoga kako treba...
ne znam sta bih rekao...

[Heineken]

Nema tu sta da se prica dalje, vojska se svesno zapostavlja. Nekome to odgovara i to veoma uspesno radi..

[superboss]

Moze se naici na mnoge tvrdnje da je Kalasnjikov bukvalno prekopirao nemacku Sturmgewehr 44 , ali....

"The AK-47 is not a direct copy or clone of the STG-44.
For starters, they fire a different cartridge. The AK-47 is chambered in 7.62x39mm, and the STG-44 in 7.92x33mm. Further, Kalishnikov (the creator of the AK-47) used the locking lug design of the M1 Garand and the trigger and safety group designed by John M. Browning. Finally, the AK action is a rotating bolt and the STG is a tilting bolt. So, there are clearly some differences.



That said, it seems pretty clear that Kalishnikov heavily borrowed from the STG-44. The two main pieces of evidence:

1) The overall design and form of the weapon is very, very similar. In fact, people who don't know much about guns often mistake a STG-44 for an AK-47.

2) Hugo Schmeisser, the man who designed by the STG-44, was captured by the Russians in 1945 and forced to work on weapon design for them. Schmeisser was not allowed to go home until 1952. Those seven years Schmeisser was working in the USSR match up pretty neatly with the development of the AK-47.

Kalishnikov (who is still alive), denies to this day that he copied the STG-44. And in a literal sense, he is correct. There are significant differences. On the other hand, the similarities are obvious even to someone who knows little about guns.

My personal view: Kalishnikov should get credit for significantly improving on the German STG-44. But would he have invented the AK-47 if the Germans hadn't invented the STG-44? I doubt it."

Ma činjenica je da je u toku i posle rata, od Nemaca svako krao ono što mu je trebalo. Ameri ne bi otišli na mesec da Švaba nije bilo....

Što se tiče AK-47 i STG-44, što se kaže slika govori kao hiljadu reči

Eto, ako je za utehu Tigar I je kopirani i usavršeni T-34

[kvcali]

dodao bi da ne bi ni A bombu napravili i bacili je na Japaneze bez nemaca

[Geza]

Nešto iz Indije.

https://www.ada.gov.in/images/IOC%20con ... 0Final.pdf

[superboss]

Nikad nisam bio ljubitelj cistog delta krila...jebes avion koji prakticno bez elektronike ne moze mirno da leti.

Postoji tu dosta prednsti, ali meni se vise dopada kanari+delta=grippen(rafal) varijanta...moze i EF ali ni njega ne ljubim previse

[Heineken]

Jedan dobar video sa demonstracije Svajcarskoj JAS 39 Gripen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KTXOn-tiQA

[BAJKER]

Nikad nisam bio ljubitelj cistog delta krila...jebes avion koji prakticno bez elektronike ne moze mirno da leti.

Pa avion Mig 21 ima delta krilo i nema mocnu elektroniku koja upravlja njime pa opet mirno leti

[superboss]

Ono jes, ali manja mu je delta mnogo i ima repne površine i niskokrilac je....ovaj indijac mene najvise podeseca na DASSAULT kopiju(konkretno M-2000)...

A m-21, ne zovu đaba raketla sa krilima. Nikada ga nesto posebno nisam voleo, jbg njega je vreme pregazilo jos u '70-tim.

[BAJKER]

Jes da ga je pregazilo vreme al lepo ga je videti i cuti grmljavinu njegovog motora. Kada sam bio na Batajnickom aerodromu u oktobru (ima izvestaj o tome viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1498&start=1920#p213604) po zavrsetku i mog odlasku sa piste jedan Mig 21 je upravo bio poletao,cuo se jace sa jednim motorom nego dva Mig-a29 sa cetri motora istovremeno na uzletanju.