BMW - generalna tema

[Floyd]

Sad bar priznaju da je "običan" M samo brza konfekcija.

[Laki021]

Pre bih rekao da su CSL i GTS previse ekstremni.

Po meni je glavna poenta M modela da budu super brzi automobili koji se bez problema mogu koristiti svaki dan. Ovi GTS i CSL to nisu, oni su ogoljeni i previse sirovi, fale im osnovne stvari za svaki dan.

[ROCK]

M2, 3,4 su za svaki dan. Dok gts i csl su rvenstveno namenjeni stazi i svakodnevna voznja nije prijatna

[Floyd]

Po meni je glavna poenta M modela da budu super brzi automobili koji se bez problema mogu koristiti svaki dan.

To je nova poenta i skrnavljenje M brenda. Automobili za NFS generaciju kojima se brza vožnja svodi na kickovanje na pravcu.

Po meni bi pravi M trebao da bude pre svega vozački auto bez kompromisa. Za ostalo su tu 540i/d ili M550i/d.

[Laki021]

Ne slazem se nikako.
Sadasnji M je bas ono sto treba da bude.
Koja je poenta napraviti M kakav ce prodati 3 komada i koji skoro nikome ne odgovara.

Na kraju krajeva razlike u performansama su realno osim na stoperici i kad profi trkaci voze zanemarive.

Nudice i GTS ko zeli, tako da ne vidim razloga za protest.

[Floyd]

Ma ne protestujem, samo kažem. Posle se ljudi šale na račun zvuka u M3 a on je samo brža trojka a ne sportski auto

[nidza]

Mnogo ljudi ima koji nemaju predstavu o mnogim stvarima o kojima govore, ne treba obraćati pažnju. M3 je jedna divna sprava, bila i ostala. Bimer koji bih već mogao biti u garaži.

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[shandu90]

Ma ne protestujem, samo kažem. Posle se ljudi šale na račun zvuka u M3 a on je samo brža trojka a ne sportski auto

Kakav zvuk moze da proizvede sa 1000rpm bilo koji auto. Ako sam dobro skontao na YT klipovima, nezagrejan motor kod M3 nema sanse da turiras do crvenog pri hladnom startu. Ima blokadu, kako se postize radna temperatura, tako se i ta 'blokada' za obrtaje smanjuje. M3 je zaista prelep i mocan auto, kao i svaki M3 do sad.

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[Delija]

Mnogo ljudi ima koji nemaju predstavu o mnogim stvarima o kojima govore, ne treba obraćati pažnju. M3 je jedna divna sprava, bila i ostala. Bimer koji bih već mogao biti u garaži.

Nije to za tebe. Ne moze ispod 5l na 100 km

[HKS]

Ma ne protestujem, samo kažem. Posle se ljudi šale na račun zvuka u M3 a on je samo brža trojka a ne sportski auto

Kakav zvuk moze da proizvede sa 1000rpm bilo koji auto. Ako sam dobro skontao na YT klipovima, nezagrejan motor kod M3 nema sanse da turiras do crvenog pri hladnom startu. Ima blokadu, kako se postize radna temperatura, tako se i ta 'blokada' za obrtaje smanjuje. M3 je zaista prelep i mocan auto, kao i svaki M3 do sad.

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To ima i E60 dizel. A i vjerovatno i E39 i E46.

[shandu90]

Nisam imao prilike da cujem e92 u m3 verziji, ali jesam e46. Isto tako i e60 m5 (vozio sam se u njemu), no to je nebitno sad. Svi ti blogeri se hvataju za zvuk, a e92 je bio jedini m3 sa v8 motorom, svi ostali su sestaci (redni) bili. I pre i posle njega. Zvuk je najmanji problem srediti realno, posebno danas kada je mnogo lakse doci do dela iz inostranstva.

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[Xepoj87]

Nije to bas tako jednostavno.
Ako hoces Pirke zvuk serpa i lonaca, samo da se dere, onda je lagano, ali da bi se auto lepo cuo, potrebno je dosta truda i znanja uloziti.
Gledao sam koliko su se oni iz AMG-a iscimali da na V8 turbu naprave zvuk, pa cak ni tada nije bio kao stari.

Prosli M3 ima super zvuk, a i njegovi R6 atmo prethodnici.

[nidza]

Mnogo ljudi ima koji nemaju predstavu o mnogim stvarima o kojima govore, ne treba obraćati pažnju. M3 je jedna divna sprava, bila i ostala. Bimer koji bih već mogao biti u garaži.

Nije to za tebe. Ne moze ispod 5l na 100 km

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[ROCK]

E90/92 ima brutaln zvuk. Najbolji do sada. Kako se cuje Akrapovic na f80?

[Laki021]

Kakve su pi..ke ovi iz Mercedesa...
Takodje praksa evropske komisije je sramotna.

BMW Raided in Collusion Probe as Daimler Blows Whistle to EUhttps://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10 ... estigation


BMW AG said it was raided by European Union antitrust watchdogs this week as the EU ramped up a probe into the German car industry following reports that carmakers colluded on technology for decades.

News of the search marks the latest development in a probe sparked earlier this year. Daimler AG reported a possible cartel as part of the EU’s leniency program that allows firms to dodge fines for being the first in line to report wrongdoing, Chief Financial Officer Bodo Uebber said earlier Friday, confirming previous press reports.

EU Competition Commissioner Margrethe Vestager said in September that her officials are checking whether “completely legal cooperation” between German car companies isn’t being confused with an illegal cartel. Her comments came after Germany’s Der Spiegel reported in July that talks on technical standards between Volkswagen AG, BMW and Daimler may have allowed them to collude on pricing.

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The three carmakers worked together on a wide range of technology including discussing the size of tanks for AdBlue, a liquid that helps neutralize pollutants in diesel exhaust, according to Der Spiegel.

“The raid on BMW alone seems to suggest that it isn’t cooperating whereas the other companies are and have provided the EU with information, making a raid there useless,” said Adrien Giraud, a lawyer at Willkie Farr & Gallagher LLP.

Vestager’s department at the European Commission said in a separate statement that the inspection, begun on Oct. 16, related to concerns that several German car manufacturers may have violated EU antitrust rules that prohibit cartels and restrictive business practices.

The commission didn’t give details of the products or companies under investigation beyond saying that one company had faced unannounced inspections and that Daimler was cooperating under the EU’s antitrust leniency program for whistle blowers.

BMW spokesman Glenn Schmidt confirmed the raids and said the company is cooperating. VW spokesman Nicolai Laude said the company wasn’t raided. He declined to comment further.

Firms who are the first to own up about a cartel can be eligible for a full reduction on any EU fines. There are discounts for other companies that help regulators with the probe or who agree to settle the case, which means they can’t appeal to the EU courts.

Daimler may escape fines because it appears to have beaten Volkswagen to blowing the whistle, Sueddeutsche Zeitung reported in July.

The EU antitrust probe is the latest scandal to the industry already battered after Volkswagen admitted two years ago that some of its cars were fitted with software that allowed it to cheat on emissions tests.