BMW - generalna tema

[Delija]

Challenge accepted.

Od tebe ipak ocekujem jedan QV. On gasi cilindre, pa je i moguce

Samo nemoj kao kupac onog sivog - iskljucio covek elektroniku u prvih par dana i spickao ga

[Dani]

Desava se.

[Xepoj87]

Kakve su pi..ke ovi iz Mercedesa...
Takodje praksa evropske komisije je sramotna.

BMW Raided in Collusion Probe as Daimler Blows Whistle to EUhttps://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10 ... estigation


BMW AG said it was raided by European Union antitrust watchdogs this week as the EU ramped up a probe into the German car industry following reports that carmakers colluded on technology for decades.

News of the search marks the latest development in a probe sparked earlier this year. Daimler AG reported a possible cartel as part of the EU’s leniency program that allows firms to dodge fines for being the first in line to report wrongdoing, Chief Financial Officer Bodo Uebber said earlier Friday, confirming previous press reports.

EU Competition Commissioner Margrethe Vestager said in September that her officials are checking whether “completely legal cooperation” between German car companies isn’t being confused with an illegal cartel. Her comments came after Germany’s Der Spiegel reported in July that talks on technical standards between Volkswagen AG, BMW and Daimler may have allowed them to collude on pricing.

SEE: Car Cartel Case Could Be Long and Winding Probe: QuickTake Q&A

The three carmakers worked together on a wide range of technology including discussing the size of tanks for AdBlue, a liquid that helps neutralize pollutants in diesel exhaust, according to Der Spiegel.

“The raid on BMW alone seems to suggest that it isn’t cooperating whereas the other companies are and have provided the EU with information, making a raid there useless,” said Adrien Giraud, a lawyer at Willkie Farr & Gallagher LLP.

Vestager’s department at the European Commission said in a separate statement that the inspection, begun on Oct. 16, related to concerns that several German car manufacturers may have violated EU antitrust rules that prohibit cartels and restrictive business practices.

The commission didn’t give details of the products or companies under investigation beyond saying that one company had faced unannounced inspections and that Daimler was cooperating under the EU’s antitrust leniency program for whistle blowers.

BMW spokesman Glenn Schmidt confirmed the raids and said the company is cooperating. VW spokesman Nicolai Laude said the company wasn’t raided. He declined to comment further.

Firms who are the first to own up about a cartel can be eligible for a full reduction on any EU fines. There are discounts for other companies that help regulators with the probe or who agree to settle the case, which means they can’t appeal to the EU courts.

Daimler may escape fines because it appears to have beaten Volkswagen to blowing the whistle, Sueddeutsche Zeitung reported in July.

The EU antitrust probe is the latest scandal to the industry already battered after Volkswagen admitted two years ago that some of its cars were fitted with software that allowed it to cheat on emissions tests.

Hah, a jos meni bilo cudno da oni svi zajedno pre 2 godine kupe HERE technologies...toliko o "konkurenciji"

[nidza]

Challenge accepted.

Od tebe ipak ocekujem jedan QV. On gasi cilindre, pa je i moguce

Samo nemoj kao kupac onog sivog - iskljucio covek elektroniku u prvih par dana i spickao ga

U prvoj krivini koliko sam shvatio.

Ipak ne mnogo realan scenario.

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[Kuzmanovic]

Ako ima neko od forumasa, BMW fanova koji traze ili bi da menjaju posao:
https://www.bmw.rs/sr/topics/fascinatio ... enije.html

Najveci ljubitelji neka u biografiju stave link ka svojim postovima, sigurno ce imati vece sanse da pobede na konkursu.

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[speedy stikis]

Treba mi jedna informacija

Koja je razlika m2 i m240i cabrio

Aj snaga motora i cabria to se da uociti na papiru

Ima li razlike u vesanju, menjacu...?

Unapred hvala

[Risto]

M2 je punokrvni M dok je M240i samo performance verzija serije 2.

[speedy stikis]

Jasno je to meni
Ali me zanimaju tacne razlike
Tj menjac i vesanje?

[HKS]

Pa sigurno da ima drugacije oslanjanje.

Послато са m2 уз помоћ Тапатока

[speedy stikis]

Posto sam imao neke sukobe misljenja

Ubedjuju me da je razlika samo u hp...

Ma nema sanse da je samo u tome razlika, mislim da je razlika i u menjacu

[Xepoj87]

U menjacu, vesanju, volanu, kvacilu, motoru, izduvu, opremi, kocnicama, tockovima, izgledu, diferencijalu...mislim da i M2 ima veci razmak tockova pozadi.
Da ima malo krsteniji enterijer(a mozda bih i ovaj preziveo, ali mi je bas socijala), ne bi bilo nikakve konkurencije, bukvalno da ne gledas dalje, jer je, em predobar, em prelep spolja i to velikim delom i zbog te sire guzice.

[Xepoj87]

Da, mislim da je i sasija cvrsca i jaca.

[ROCK]

Ko te to ubedjuje? Da je tako onda kupis 240i i za 300e uradis remap na oko 400hp i dobijes pojacani M2 '))))
U m2 je dkg sa 7 brzina i duplim kvacilom dok je 240i sa zf8.
E sad koliko ce vozaca iskoristiti prednosti m2 u have dnosu na 240i je tesko. Mozda neko ko se bavi automobilizmom. Od "normalnih" vozaca mozda jedan u 100 npr

[shator]

M240i je zapravo brzi na nekim vecim brzinama.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/Ror86gNN5zA

[Delija]

@Xepoj87
Motor je najmanja razlika, sta vise M240i ima noviji motor - naslednik onog iz M2.

M2 koristi "matori" N55, kao i M235i. Naravno, malo jaca verzija - N55B30T0. Isti motor koristi i X4 M40i, ali ima 360 ks.
M240i ima novi B58.
M3/M4 ima S55 (upgrade-ovani N55).