Vesti iz auto-industrije

[moimoi]

Volkswagen i Audi primorani da povuku pola miliona automobila sa dizel motorima (2009-2015) u SAD, zbog softvera koji služi za varanje na testu emisije zagađenja.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/19/busin ... dline&_r=0

Hyundai i Kia su platili $300 miliona 2014 godine kad su lagali o fabričkoj potrošnji. Biće interesantno. Amerikanci više brinu o zagađivačima vazduha, a Evropljani o CO2, zato ima malo dizela u SAD.

edit:
U regularnoj vožnji emituje 40 puta više zagađivača nego na testu. Pod pretnjom zabrane dalje prodaje VW i Audi modela sa dizel motorima, VW priznao da su namerno instalirali softver za varanje na EPA testu.

Američka agnencija EPA, potvrdila da maksimalna kazna može biti 18 milijardi dolara.

[aviator]

Znači, tsi da gledam?

[Laki021]

Ovo je jako bitna vest.
Naravno Ameri su uvek azurni kad im se ukaze da prilika da sto vise kazne evropske kompanije, sto vise to bolje, 18 milijardi, ma milina.
Isto me brine sta je sa drugim, sumnjam da je VW morao 40x da lazira rezultate a da su drugi posteno uspeli da zadovolje testove, ne bi me iznenadilo da sad jedne po jedne krenu da proveravaju i ustanove istu stvar...

A voleo bih da znam i sta i kako taj software radi...

[Laki021]

Isti testovi su odradjeni i na BMW i prosli su bez problema.
Ocigledno neka ogromna brljotina VW, nije mi jasno kako je moguce da bas toliko vise spornih materija emituju.
Treba pod hitno i u EU zabrabiti prodaju spornih motora.

[perfiko]

Kako li će ovo da se odrazi na cene polovnih VW dizela? Ako će uopšte.

[Geza]

Da nastavimo ovde priču o VW dizelašima.

VW faced ultimatum from EPA
Automotive News http://www.autonews.com/article/2015092 ... m-from-epa

WASHINGTON -- In the end, federal environmental regulators gave Volkswagen an ultimatum: Offer a convincing explanation for why many of its diesel vehicles were spewing more toxic emissions than they did in the test lab or face the loss of EPA certification for all its 2016 diesel models.

At that point, on Sept. 3, Volkswagen chose to explain.

And the explanation turned out to be a huge embarrassment for a company whose U.S. identity is closely tied to the promise of peppy "clean diesels": Volkswagen, the EPA said, used special software to manipulate its emissions controls during U.S. emissions tests, effectively doctoring its emissions results on seven model years' worth of diesel vehicles going back to 2009, in violation of the Clean Air Act.

Last week, the EPA announced that 482,000 Volkswagen and Audi diesel vehicles were fitted with what the agency called a "defeat device" -- software that would detect when a car is undergoing EPA emissions testing and turn on the vehicle's full emissions controls. The software then switched off the full emissions controls during real-world driving, the EPA said.

With the controls off, the cars emitted nitrous oxide at levels 10 to 40 times greater than what was permitted by law, according to the EPA.

Compared with other run-ins between the EPA and automakers, VW's alleged violation stands out in its brazenness. Ford and Hyundai-Kia both had to reduce the fuel economy ratings on several vehicles in recent years under EPA pressure, but those revisions were tied, in Hyundai-Kia's case, to errors in calibrating mpg tests, and in Ford's to exploiting loopholes in the law.

Volkswagen, on the other hand, admitted to installing software code designed to manipulate the results of EPA tests, regulators say.

"These violations are very serious, not only because illegal defeat devices result in excess emissions many times the allowable standard, but also because VW was concealing the facts from EPA, the State of California and consumers," Cynthia Giles, assistant administrator for the EPA's Office of Enforcement and Compliance Assurance, said in a conference call. "We expected better from VW."

Janet McCabe, acting assistant administrator for the EPA's Office of Air and Radiation, said the office will "hold VW responsible" for recalling the affected vehicles to reduce the excess emissions but said no recall order was issued as part of the announcement Friday, Sept. 18. In a statement, VW said it would develop a remedy with the EPA and the California Air Resources Board.

For now, no fines have been ordered, as the investigation is continuing, but the EPA decided to announce the alleged violations to inform the public and "to put VW on notice of our continuing investigation," Giles said. The investigation is being conducted in cooperation with CARB.

Under federal law, the EPA can levy a maximum fine of $37,500 per vehicle, EPA officials said on the conference call Friday, meaning VW and Audi face potential fines that could top $18 billion.

Volkswagen said it's cooperating with the investigation.

"This is a notice of non-compliance that needs to be addressed," the statement said.

For more than a year, federal and California regulators had been investigating independent test results indicating older VW diesel vehicles were far dirtier in the real world than official emissions test results indicated. The independent analysis came from researchers at West Virginia University, working with the International Council on Clean Transportation, a nongovernmental organization.

VW initially responded that the disparities were caused by "various technical issues and unexpected in-use conditions," the EPA said.

But as the regulators pressed their inquiry, the EPA said, "none of the potential technical issues suggested by VW explained" the disparities.

Sales at stake


According to the EPA, the agency and CARB this month demanded an explanation from VW and were prepared to withhold certification that VW's 2016 diesel vehicles complied with U.S. emissions standards.

The EPA has since withheld those certifications, which effectively blocks their sale.

VW has now ordered U.S. dealers not to sell any remaining 2015 models with 2.0-liter diesel engines. And the automaker ordered an internal investigation. Also today, CEO Martin Winterkorn issued a statement apologizing for the violation.

"I personally am deeply sorry that we have broken the trust of our customers and the public," Winterkorn said in the statement. "Volkswagen has ordered an external investigation of this matter. We will do everything necessary in order to reverse the damage this has caused."

The withholding of the certification could be a devastating blow for VW, which relies on diesels for roughly a fifth of its U.S. sales and has made its clean diesel technology a cornerstone of its brand identity, setting it apart from mainstream competitors.

"Only then (when confronted by regulators) did VW admit it had designed and installed a defeat device in these vehicles in the form of a sophisticated software algorithm that detected when a vehicle was undergoing emissions testing," the EPA said in its notice on Friday.

"The dogged detective work in the lab provided the data and resulted in an admission that VW did indeed have a defeat device in its software for diesel cars," Richard Corey, executive officer of CARB, said on the conference call.

[Geza]

Pogođen trenutak za ovu vest.

Hybrids to slowly replace diesels at Mercedes
http://www.autoblog.com/2015/09/21/hybr ... -mercedes/

German automakers have had some success bringing diesel-powered vehicles in America in recent years, but that may not last much longer. A product planner from Mercedes-Benz we spoke to in Austria apparently believes hybrid setups may be more favorable in the long run, and electrified hybrids will eventually replace oil burners. That's why most every concept car we've seen in the last few years features some sort of hybrid or plug-in hybrid setup while there have been very few diesels.

"Yes, diesel is technically complex, and very expensive. The additives to reduce particulate matter are very costly. You'll see more hybrids to meet the changing regulations," according to our source. We've seen this exact scenario play out with Mazda, which has struggled to bring its 2.2-liter diesel engine to America, citing the costly process to reduce emissions in order to meet California-level standards while still maintaining suitable performance for the US market. It's certainly interesting that this news comes hot on the heels of revelations that VW, the automaker that offers the most diesel-powered models in the US, was found in violation of emissions rules on its popular 2.0-liter TDI engine.

[Ivan]

Verovatno zato i ne razvijaju dizele zadnjih nekoliko godina.

Послато са GT-N7100

[Milos]

Xepoj izneverovao.

[McGruja]

Odbija da izađe iz stana

[Geza]

Saopštenje Volkswagena.

“Volkswagen is working at full speed to clarify irregularities concerning a particular software used in diesel engines. New vehicles from the Volkswagen Group with EU 6 diesel engines currently available in the European Union comply with legal requirements and environmental standards. The software in question does not affect handling, consumption or emissions. This gives clarity to customers and dealers.

Further internal investigations conducted to date have established that the relevant engine management software is also installed in other Volkswagen Group vehicles with diesel engines. For the majority of these engines the software does not have any effect.

Discrepancies relate to vehicles with Type EA 189 engines, involving some eleven million vehicles worldwide. A noticeable deviation between bench test results and actual road use was established solely for this type of engine. Volkswagen is working intensely to eliminate these deviations through technical measures. The company is therefore in contact with the relevant authorities and the German Federal Motor Transport Authority (KBA – Kraftfahrtbundesamt).

To cover the necessary service measures and other efforts to win back the trust of our customers, Volkswagen plans to set aside a provision of some 6.5 billion EUR recognized in the profit and loss statement in the third quarter of the current fiscal year. Due to the ongoing investigations the amounts estimated may be subject to revaluation.
Earnings targets for the Group for 2015 will be adjusted accordingly.

Volkswagen does not tolerate any kind of violation of laws whatsoever. It is and remains the top priority of the Board of Management to win back lost trust and to avert damage to our customers. The Group will inform the public on the further progress of the investigations constantly and transparently.”

[perfiko]

Da li iz svega ovoga oko VW-a može da se izvuče zaključak da su izuzetno uspešna firma, zato što su, grubo rečeno, prodavali euro3 tehnologiju pod euro5, i da su kao i ostali proizvođači ulagali brdo para u zadovoljavanje raznih eko normi umesto u materijale, kvalitet sklopova, i proširivanje game, sada bili na nivou Lade kada je pouzdanost u pitanju?

[McGruja]

Ja ne razumem kako je došlo do ovoga, jer sumnjam da bilo koji drugi dizel može da bude značajno bolji/gori

[aviator]

Pogled iz drugog ugla.
Ko, osim MB, BMW i VW, prodaje automobile sa dizel motorom u SAD?

[HKS]

Ford, Dodge, GM.