- ili je direktno odobrio varanje
- ili je znao za problem, ali je niz lanac poslao komandu "rešite kako znate i umete, nedam budžet za razvoj novih motora i ne zanimaju me tričarije"
- ili nije uopšte znao da postoji problem, što je isto njegova greška. To znači da je kompanijska kultura bila da se problemi guraju pod tepih umesto da možeš bez straha nadređenima da kažeš to i to ne valja i ne može. I tako do vrha. CEO je najodgovorniji kakva će biti kultura u kompaniji.
U svakom slučaju CEO je kriv i treba da leti.
Vesti iz auto-industrije
Re: Vesti iz domaće i svetske auto-industrije
ukratkoLaki021 napisao:
A voleo bih da znam i sta i kako taj software radi...
Mercedes je mozda i ispunio E6, posto njihovi dizeli imaju rezervoar za AdBlue u gepeku. Mozda 10ak litara, na mestu rezervnog tocka.
VW koliko znam, nije to koristio, oni su gurali pricu da je njihov motor "na suvo" euro6
edit:
ovde ima svasta lepo objasnjeno
http://www.topgear.com/car-news/insider ... s-answered
Re: Vesti iz domaće i svetske auto-industrije
Mogli su lepo da kupe dizele od BMW-a kad vec ne znaju da ih naprave 
Re: Vesti iz domaće i svetske auto-industrije
Inace kao kupac auta mi je mnogo bitno NoX vrijednosti i iste granice NoX vrijednosti sto postoje u Kaliforniji.
To mi je inace prioritet 1 kad kupujem kola
To mi je inace prioritet 1 kad kupujem kola
Re: Vesti iz domaće i svetske auto-industrije
Pa tome i sluze zakoni, da je vecini kupaca bitno, ne bi bilo potrebe za zakonima.
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Jesili ti se odlucio za bembaru zbog okolisa ili zbog performanca, jebenog dizajna i luksuzaLaki021 napisao:Pa tome i sluze zakoni, da je vecini kupaca bitno, ne bi bilo potrebe za zakonima.
Nikakva razlika nece biti onima koji danas imaju taj diezel motor u svojim vag autima.
A pogotovo ne nama koji zivimo u van Kalifornije.
A cisto sumnjam da su zakoni nameceni zbog interes vecine.
Ovo 100% rade vecina na jedan ili drugi nacin, samo sad je VW(ne slucajno jedan od najvecih proizvodjaca) uhvacen, vidjet ce te sta ce biti u narednih mjeseci
Re: Vesti iz domaće i svetske auto-industrije
Nije poenta u kupcima, lepo ti je Laki napisao.
Nije isključeno da svi najmanji potrošači koriste slične trikove, a da su ove mere amera u sklopu trenutnih ekonomskih mera protiv EU i Nemačke.
Tapatalk
Nije isključeno da svi najmanji potrošači koriste slične trikove, a da su ove mere amera u sklopu trenutnih ekonomskih mera protiv EU i Nemačke.
Tapatalk
Re: Vesti iz domaće i svetske auto-industrije
Penzija mu neće teško pasti.
Volkswagen CEO Likely to Get $32 Million Pension After Leaving
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/ ... er-leaving
Martin Winterkorn, engulfed by a diesel-emissions scandal at Volkswagen AG, amassed a $32 million pension before stepping down Wednesday, and may reap millions more in severance depending on how the supervisory board classifies his exit.
After Winterkorn disclosed Wednesday that he had asked the board to terminate his role, company spokesman Claus-Peter Tiemann declined to comment on how much money the departing CEO stands to get. Volkswagen’s most recent annual report outlines how Winterkorn, its leader since 2007, could theoretically collect two significant payouts.
Winterkorn’s pension had a value of 28.6 million euros ($32 million) at the end of last year, according to the report, which doesn’t describe any conditions that would lead the company to withhold it. And under certain circumstances, he also can collect severance equal to two years of “remuneration.” He was Germany’s second-highest paid CEO last year, receiving a total of 16.6 million euros in compensation from the company and majority shareholder Porsche SE.
While the severance package kicks in if the supervisory board terminates his contract early, there’s a caveat. If the board ends his employment for a reason for which he is responsible, then severance is forfeited, according to company filings.
‘Towering Contributions’
The supervisory board’s executive committee said in a statement Wednesday that Winterkorn “had no knowledge of the manipulation of emissions data,” and that it respected his offer to resign and request to be terminated. It also thanked him for his “towering contributions” to the company.
Winterkorn, 68, said in his statement Wednesday that he was stunned to learn of the scope of alleged misconduct occurring at the company. U.S. officials said Sept. 18 the carmaker had cheated during tests of diesel-powered vehicles sold since 2009.
“As CEO I accept responsibility for the irregularities that have been found in diesel engines and have therefore requested the supervisory board to agree on terminating my function as CEO,” he said. “I am doing this in the interests of the company even though I am not aware of any wrongdoing on my part.”
The annual report also mentions another piece of his pension: He can use a company car in the years that benefit is being paid out.
Volkswagen CEO Likely to Get $32 Million Pension After Leaving
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/ ... er-leaving
Martin Winterkorn, engulfed by a diesel-emissions scandal at Volkswagen AG, amassed a $32 million pension before stepping down Wednesday, and may reap millions more in severance depending on how the supervisory board classifies his exit.
After Winterkorn disclosed Wednesday that he had asked the board to terminate his role, company spokesman Claus-Peter Tiemann declined to comment on how much money the departing CEO stands to get. Volkswagen’s most recent annual report outlines how Winterkorn, its leader since 2007, could theoretically collect two significant payouts.
Winterkorn’s pension had a value of 28.6 million euros ($32 million) at the end of last year, according to the report, which doesn’t describe any conditions that would lead the company to withhold it. And under certain circumstances, he also can collect severance equal to two years of “remuneration.” He was Germany’s second-highest paid CEO last year, receiving a total of 16.6 million euros in compensation from the company and majority shareholder Porsche SE.
While the severance package kicks in if the supervisory board terminates his contract early, there’s a caveat. If the board ends his employment for a reason for which he is responsible, then severance is forfeited, according to company filings.
‘Towering Contributions’
The supervisory board’s executive committee said in a statement Wednesday that Winterkorn “had no knowledge of the manipulation of emissions data,” and that it respected his offer to resign and request to be terminated. It also thanked him for his “towering contributions” to the company.
Winterkorn, 68, said in his statement Wednesday that he was stunned to learn of the scope of alleged misconduct occurring at the company. U.S. officials said Sept. 18 the carmaker had cheated during tests of diesel-powered vehicles sold since 2009.
“As CEO I accept responsibility for the irregularities that have been found in diesel engines and have therefore requested the supervisory board to agree on terminating my function as CEO,” he said. “I am doing this in the interests of the company even though I am not aware of any wrongdoing on my part.”
The annual report also mentions another piece of his pension: He can use a company car in the years that benefit is being paid out.
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Re: Vesti iz domaće i svetske auto-industrije
Evo kako su ih uhvatili:
Auto promeni mapu kad je opterećen i kreće se, u odnosu na to kad je opterećen i stoji u mestu (merenje na dyno). Očigledno nisu računali na merenje dok se vozilo kreće.
http://www.vox.com/2015/9/23/9383663/vw ... ndal-photo
Ne znam zašto, ali uveren sam da se bar još jednom proizvođaču tresu gaće oko istog pitanja.
Auto promeni mapu kad je opterećen i kreće se, u odnosu na to kad je opterećen i stoji u mestu (merenje na dyno). Očigledno nisu računali na merenje dok se vozilo kreće.
http://www.vox.com/2015/9/23/9383663/vw ... ndal-photo
Ne znam zašto, ali uveren sam da se bar još jednom proizvođaču tresu gaće oko istog pitanja.
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The Unassuming Engineer Who Exposed Volkswagen
"The testing we did kind of opened the can of worms."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the ... e8b0d05376
MORGANTOWN, West Virginia, Sept 22 (Reuters) - Daniel Carder, an unassuming 45-year-old engineer with gray hair and blue jeans, appears an unlikely type to take down one of the world's most powerful companies.
But he and his small research team at West Virginia University may have done exactly that, with a $50,000 study which produced early evidence that Volkswagen AG was cheating on U.S. vehicle emissions tests, setting off a scandal that threatens the German automaker's leadership, reputation and finances.
"The testing we did kind of opened the can of worms," Carder says of his five-member engineering team and the research project that found much higher on-road diesel emission levels for VW vehicles than what U.S. regulators were seeing in tests.
The results of that study, which was paid for by the nonprofit International Council on Clean Transportation (ICCT) in late 2013 and completed in May 2014, were later corroborated by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and California Air Resources Board (CARB).
Carder's team - a research professor, two graduate students, a faculty member and himself - performed road tests around Los Angeles and up the West Coast to Seattle that generated results so pronounced that they initially suspected a problem with their own research.
"The first thing you do is beat yourself up and say, 'Did we not do something right?' You always blame yourself," he told Reuters in an interview. "(We) saw huge discrepancies. There was one vehicle with 15 to 35 times the emissions levels and another vehicle with 10 to 20 times the emissions levels."
Despite the discrepancies, a fix shouldn't involve major changes. "It could be something very small," said Carder, who's the interim director of West Virginia University's Center for Alternative Fuels, Engines and Emissions in Morgantown, about 200 miles (320 km) west of Washington in the Appalachian foothills.
"It can simply be a change in the fuel injection strategy. What might be realized is a penalty in fuel economy in order to get these systems more active, to lower the emissions levels."
Carder said he's surprised to see such a hullabaloo now, because his team's findings were made public nearly a year and a half ago.
"We actually presented this data in a public forum and were actually questioned by Volkswagen," said Carder.
The ICCT's research contract to Carder's team was sparked by separate findings by the European Commission's Joint Research Centre, which showed a discrepancy between test results and real world performance in European diesel engines.
The diesel vehicles chosen for the West Virginia study were the VW Passat, the VW Jetta and the BMW X5. Unlike the VW vehicles, Carder said the BMW vehicle "performed very nicely - at, or below, the certification emission levels."
West Virginia University is not new to ground-breaking emissions research, having helped create the first technology to measure vehicle emissions on the road more than 15 years ago.
Carder belonged to a 15-member West Virginia University team that pioneered portable emissions testing as part of a 1998 settlement between the U.S. Justice Department and several heavy duty diesel engine makers including Caterpillar Inc and Cummins Engine Co.
The manufacturers agreed to pay $83.4 million in civil penalties after federal officials found evidence that they were selling heavy duty diesel engines equipped with "defeat devices" that allowed the engines to meet EPA emission standards during testing but disabled the emission control system during normal highway driving.
When the news about Volkswagen broke last Friday, Carder heard from some of the heavy diesel engine manufacturers that were part of the consent decree.
"They saw what had happened and called to say: 'Good job, you guys,'" Carder said. "Some folks said: 'How did they not learn from our mistakes 15 years ago?'"
Regarding his role in unearthing the current scandal, Carder said there was no particular sense of excitement when his team confirmed that the higher VW emission results were real and not a consequence of faulty measurements.
"There's no incentive for us to pass or fail," he said. "Obviously, we don't want to see something spewing emissions and polluting the environment. But we really have no horse in the race, as they say." (
"The testing we did kind of opened the can of worms."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the ... e8b0d05376
MORGANTOWN, West Virginia, Sept 22 (Reuters) - Daniel Carder, an unassuming 45-year-old engineer with gray hair and blue jeans, appears an unlikely type to take down one of the world's most powerful companies.
But he and his small research team at West Virginia University may have done exactly that, with a $50,000 study which produced early evidence that Volkswagen AG was cheating on U.S. vehicle emissions tests, setting off a scandal that threatens the German automaker's leadership, reputation and finances.
"The testing we did kind of opened the can of worms," Carder says of his five-member engineering team and the research project that found much higher on-road diesel emission levels for VW vehicles than what U.S. regulators were seeing in tests.
The results of that study, which was paid for by the nonprofit International Council on Clean Transportation (ICCT) in late 2013 and completed in May 2014, were later corroborated by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and California Air Resources Board (CARB).
Carder's team - a research professor, two graduate students, a faculty member and himself - performed road tests around Los Angeles and up the West Coast to Seattle that generated results so pronounced that they initially suspected a problem with their own research.
"The first thing you do is beat yourself up and say, 'Did we not do something right?' You always blame yourself," he told Reuters in an interview. "(We) saw huge discrepancies. There was one vehicle with 15 to 35 times the emissions levels and another vehicle with 10 to 20 times the emissions levels."
Despite the discrepancies, a fix shouldn't involve major changes. "It could be something very small," said Carder, who's the interim director of West Virginia University's Center for Alternative Fuels, Engines and Emissions in Morgantown, about 200 miles (320 km) west of Washington in the Appalachian foothills.
"It can simply be a change in the fuel injection strategy. What might be realized is a penalty in fuel economy in order to get these systems more active, to lower the emissions levels."
Carder said he's surprised to see such a hullabaloo now, because his team's findings were made public nearly a year and a half ago.
"We actually presented this data in a public forum and were actually questioned by Volkswagen," said Carder.
The ICCT's research contract to Carder's team was sparked by separate findings by the European Commission's Joint Research Centre, which showed a discrepancy between test results and real world performance in European diesel engines.
The diesel vehicles chosen for the West Virginia study were the VW Passat, the VW Jetta and the BMW X5. Unlike the VW vehicles, Carder said the BMW vehicle "performed very nicely - at, or below, the certification emission levels."
West Virginia University is not new to ground-breaking emissions research, having helped create the first technology to measure vehicle emissions on the road more than 15 years ago.
Carder belonged to a 15-member West Virginia University team that pioneered portable emissions testing as part of a 1998 settlement between the U.S. Justice Department and several heavy duty diesel engine makers including Caterpillar Inc and Cummins Engine Co.
The manufacturers agreed to pay $83.4 million in civil penalties after federal officials found evidence that they were selling heavy duty diesel engines equipped with "defeat devices" that allowed the engines to meet EPA emission standards during testing but disabled the emission control system during normal highway driving.
When the news about Volkswagen broke last Friday, Carder heard from some of the heavy diesel engine manufacturers that were part of the consent decree.
"They saw what had happened and called to say: 'Good job, you guys,'" Carder said. "Some folks said: 'How did they not learn from our mistakes 15 years ago?'"
Regarding his role in unearthing the current scandal, Carder said there was no particular sense of excitement when his team confirmed that the higher VW emission results were real and not a consequence of faulty measurements.
"There's no incentive for us to pass or fail," he said. "Obviously, we don't want to see something spewing emissions and polluting the environment. But we really have no horse in the race, as they say." (
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Posle ostavke su akcije skocile za 5-6 %... Jako lepa zarada na neku vecu sumu u samo dva dana...
Re: Vesti iz domaće i svetske auto-industrije
Slazem se, cudno je da nigde nema informacija sta to softver radi drugacije u pripremi gorive smese koja bi uticala na emisiju gasova u odnosu na druge dizele.McGruja napisao:Ja ne razumem kako je došlo do ovoga, jer sumnjam da bilo koji drugi dizel može da bude značajno bolji/gori
Samo sporedna informacija da ima 2 radna rezima, sa i bez eko postavki.
Hoce li se Bosch/ Continental oglasiti nekim komentarom videce se???
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Kakve to ima veze sa boschom, oni su isporucili delove prema trazenim specifikacijama.
Послато са GT-N7100
Послато са GT-N7100
Re: Vesti iz domaće i svetske auto-industrije
DukeNS napisao:Posle ostavke su akcije skocile za 5-6 %... Jako lepa zarada na neku vecu sumu u samo dva dana...
I kad izađe Golf 8 sve će da se vrati na staro, a neko se lepo opario
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Koiko sam ja razumeo, kada auto "vidi" da se testira, ubacuje vise goriva i propisno zagreva katalizator koji onda obavlja svoju funkciju. Kada je u normalnom rezimu, radi sa siromasnijom smesom i katalizator je hladniji i ne odradjuje svoj posao kako treba. Drugi proizvodjaci imaju adblue i slicne dodatke. U tome je ceo problem. Snaga generalno ostaje ista. Ako bi auto radio u dyno rezimu uvek onda bi i vise trosio.ljubitelj napisao: Slazem se, cudno je da nigde nema informacija sta to softver radi drugacije u pripremi gorive smese koja bi uticala na emisiju gasova u odnosu na druge dizele.
Samo sporedna informacija da ima 2 radna rezima, sa i bez eko postavki.
Hoce li se Bosch/ Continental oglasiti nekim komentarom videce se???
