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Opet nemas nista pametnije da radis umesto da iznosis lazne podatke :)

Kod bmwa je daleko veca sansa pored lanca da ga saceka trosak u vidu crknutih dizni, plivajuceg, dpfa.

Pritom jos ima bagova sa elektronikom, desava se da termostat ventilacije zakuca i izvuce akumulator kada je auto ugasen itd.

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Ajde molim te, stvarno te najljubaznije molim da ne lupas vise gluposti, iznosis dezinformacije i trpas se gde ne treba.
Svako moze da ukuca o problemima CR tdi motors sa diznama, i sta ces onda??? Ti znas da su manje sanse, ne znam samo na osnovu cega...

Da ne pominjem da se svo vreme pravis blesav i potpuno zanemarujes koliko se taj BMW bolje vozi od Audi-a koje si pominjao, ali ko to jos gleda na auto forumu.

Ajd da je neki Hondas zapeo dz se duva pa i da podrzi nekim podacima, ali Audi i pouzdanost, komedija...
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2.0TDi CR ima problem sa diznama?
ja moram da priznam da to prvi put cujem :)
plivajuci zamajac ume da pravi problem..


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Pa zasto onda ti uporno lupas gluposti i iznosis totalne dezinformacije?

Svako moze da ukuca probleme o e90 i pogodi sta izbaci (cak se lanac i ne spominje toliko), masovni otkazi dpf, dizni, turbina, plivajucih, razne druge elektronike i kontrolnih modula i gomila recallova.

Pritom zanemarujes koliko je audi udobniji, izolovaniji i komforniji (prostraniji) sa daleko modernijim enterijerom.

Late 2008 facelift 320i SE comes on standard 225/45 R17 runflat tyres that give a harsh ride.
Complaint of excessive vibration from drivetrain of 320d Efficient Dynamics model.
Report that Tyre Pressure Monitoring System does not always work when a runflat tyre deflates.
Possible autobox software problem on 335i autos. Specifically, "When in manual the default position is always 2nd gear which suggests it is the same in drive. Then when accelerating from low revs the car stutters and jerks, again as if it is trying to find 1st gear."
Check PAS fluid level regularly. Steering rack may leak fluid unnoticed out of endseal and into track rod end gaiter. Seems to be a Europe-wide shortage of parts to correct this.
Turbo failures of 320d engines starting to be reported November 2007.
BMW E91 330d SE Touring - 2006-'06 - 15k miles as of May 2008: Flat spot at 1200rpm from new, only just been sorted out at 15k miles / 2 yrs after BMW issued a tech update - new Software installed on ECU, solved issue. Poor gearchange quality between 1st and 2nd. Factory fit swivelling towbar failed to disengage in February, causing whole dash warning lights to light up, + warning chime. BMW service called to recover car the dealer. Towbar recall issued last month by BMW, new housing fitted (apparently to to with chafing wires). Recent steering lock issues, failing to disengage when inserting key, hence engine will not start. Apparently software update solved issue.
Coil failures becoming quite common with petrol engines.
Do not use cheap supermarket petrol with inadequate detergent content as this can block injectors. Best to use Shell V-Power.
Dual mass flywheel failures becoming increasingly common on manual diesels.
Problem with 2.0 litre petrol engines. Two crankshaft sensors corrode and need replacing and ECU requires a 'V29' software upgrade.
ESP warning light can indicate Fault Code "Boost Pressure Sensor G201". This is embedded inside Teves Mk 60 ABS systems and requires replacement of ABS control unit/pump. Seems to be age-related, occurring mainly in 3 - 5 year old cars. Does not necessarily lead to an MoT failure. If car has been BMW maintained, BWW will usually meet 100% of replacement cost. If not BMW will still help towards £1,600 cost of replacement. The fault may be rectified by a BMW ABS repair kit at a cost of £144.68 + Vat. The total cost of the repair including the replacement ABS pump,clearing the computer code and a brake fluid change + labour is about £346 +vat .The BMW repair code reference is 34516. Bosch ABS systems do not have the Teves problem. (Same DSC/DTC sensor failure in the ABS/ESP module as suffered in Teves Mk 60 ABS/ESP modules, but BMW adopts a £400 repair rather than replacing the entire module at a cost of £1,500 - £2,000. Possibly they use the fix devised by ECU Testing)
Use only BMW Approved screen washer fluid, to the required strength. If using lesser fluid that freezes in the washer nozzles, especially the headlight washer nozzles, then pressure from the pump when they freeze will pop them off in severe sub zero conditions.
Problem with new 335i single turbo engine not resolved by 21-7-2010. Some cars arrived at UK dealers and could not be delivered.
News of DPFs failing on 330Ds after 80k miles. Cost £1,000 to replace.
If the car has Bluetooth and the owner has their Mobile phone synched to the car then if the car is not locked / all electrics shut down the car will keep trying to search for the phone and drain the battery.
Battery drains are also caused by the heater thermostat fan resistor (called a +ACI-hedgehog+ACI-because that's what it looks like). Best advice is to turn the heater fan off completely overnight, just push the minus side until it reaches minimum and then one notch more it switches off completely and the panel illumination goes out. The resistor itself can be accessed by removing trim to get to the back of the heater controls. It is not necessary to dismantle the whole dash.
Hairline cracks in 19" alloy wheels well known. Now also reports of hairline cracks in 17" wheels fitted with runflat tyres at as little as 3 years old. Caused by speed cushions, broken speed humps and potholes.
13-01-11: Reader with 55 plate E90 330d reports a fuel leak, BMW dealer has advised that this leak is coming from a damaged 'overflow pipe'. Reader performed a short search on the web and found the problem to be quite wide spread. May lead to a VOSA vehhicle safety recall.
23-02-11: Repeated coil and injector problems on 4-cylinder petrol engines from 2007, as 1-Series.
07-03-11: Coil and injector problems reported on N53 6-cylinder petrol engines from 2007 as well.
04-06-11: Report of 3 year old 320i touring SE (170-with start stop) never running smoothly from 3 months and 3,000 miles old to date at 27,000 miles. Has had 7 replacement injectors, 7 coils,10 spark plugs and 1 clutch all under warranty. BMW voluntarily extended the warranty for, a further 12 months.
27-07-11: Wiring problems can lead to doors deadlocking, radio losing codes, indicators losing the three flash touch.
30-07-11: BMW replacing faulty petrol injectors, though not all cars are fitted with the same type.
09-08-11: Problem of rocker box seals leaking oil from 4-cylinder petrol engines.
10-12-2011: Diesel Particulate Filter problems and consequent turbo problems increasingly common on N47 320ds repeatedly driven shorte distances from cold.
20-1-2012: Cracked cylinder liner reported on 2007 320 Si 4-cylinder engine. Waiting for replacement from July 2011 to January 2012. Car obviously off the road all that time.
3-2-2012: Significant numbers of high pressure fuel pump failures on N52 and N53 330i and N55 335i in the USA. See link: http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14650 BMW initially "blamed" "ethanol" or "poor quality" gasoline in the U.S. for these failures. In fact, BMW HPFP failures are well documented in Germany (even with their "superior quality" gasoline), Australia, Asia, South Africa, etc. Some of these countries have never used ethanol in any of their gasoline..... HPFP Part Numbers 1. 13-51-7-537-320 2. 13-51-7-585-655 3. 13-51-7-592-881 4. 13-51-7-596-123 5. 13-51-7-594-943 6. 13-51-7-613-933 7. XX-XX-X-XXX-402 8. 13-51-7-616-170 9. 13-51-7-616-446.
5-2-2012: DPF failures now quite common on diesels at between 80,000 and 120,000 miles. Any sign of a problem, do not continue to drive the car because increased back pressure can stop the turbo turning, leading to overheating and seizing of the bearing.
11-2-2012: Timing chain failures becoming increasingly common on N47 2.0 litre diesel engines subject to extended oil change regimes. Can occur from about 5 years old and from about 90k miles. From 50k miles onwards, best to change the oil every 10k miles maximum.
12-4-2012: Cold weather fault can develop with 'Active Steering'. There is a dealer TSB on this and it should be attended to during routine service. Otherwise, the cost is a stiff £1,750 + VAT for a new steering column, though BMW is aware and had been known to do the decent thing on 4 year old cars, even those serviced independently.
25-5-2012: Complaint of problem with boot lock mechanism of 2011 3-Series E90.
10-7-2012: Numerous problems with a high spec January 2008 320i Touring over 30,000 miles include: failed water pump & thermostat (£650), failed coils - twice within the first 3 years, faulty emission sensor warning lights and poor DAB reception.
13-7-2012: Report of August 2009 320d Business model needing complete suspension rebuild at 2 years old and more recently needing I-Drive replacing. Low miles of 20,560 in 35 months. 16" runflat tyre life: rears 17,500 miles; fronts still okay at 20,560 miles.
13-7-2012: At 35 months and 43,252 miles an E92 325i coupe developed a fault. Engine management light suddenly came on warning of a fault plus reduced power but this disappeared when the engine was switched off and restarted. Happened twice the same day and taken to dealer the next day. Reader also thought that it had sometimes seemed to start as if it was partially flooded. Dealer replaced plugs, coils and injectors under the original warranty. Several weeks later, by then out of 3 year warranty, the problem continued intermittently every two or three weeks so car returned it to the dealer at 44,134 miles. Dealer diagnostics indicated need for a replacement high pressure fuel pump which had to be done under the new extended insured warranty but reader lost the £250 excess under that warranty.
22-7-2012: Rear light cluster bulbs cannot be replaced individually. If one bulb (LED?) fails the whole cluster has to be replaced at a cost of £120.93 plus labour £22.
16-8-2012: April 2008 BMW 325i (3.0 6 cylinder) required full set of injectors, high pressure fuel pump and i-drive by 35,000 miles (replaced under goodwill). Reader told by BMW mechanic that piezo-electric injectors only last 30k-40k miles. Had been running car on Shell V-Power but filled once with 95 Ron and then injectors failed.
7-9-2012: Doorlock failures becoming increasingly common.
1-11-2012: Fairly common fuel leak caused by abraded vent pipe from the filler cap which rubs against the bodywork. This problem appears to be well known and is discussed on the BIMMERPOST web site. BMW has now modified the pipe by adding a sleeve in the area that contacts the bodywork. The repair costs £224 after a goodwill allowance.
17-2-2013: Another report of cylinder liner problems causing excessive oil consumption, this on a 56 reg 320i.
11-5-2013: Typical wear rate of M Sport 225/45/R17 91V front tyres and 255/40/R17 94V rears is 8,000 miles. 205/55R16 runflats typically last 15,000 - 20,000 miles. Set of 16" TUV approved Alutec wheels costs £335 inc from Tyremen.
16-5-2013: Strange case of snapped crankshaft of 147k mile 2007 320dSE Touring. Owner has just spent £1,500 on a service and MoT. Then, after 50 miles, a big bang. Seems that one of the injectors failed, pouring too much diesel into one combustion chamber and this caused 'hydraulic lock' (as floodwater can). Engine totally destroyed.
30-6-2013: Report of DSC failure on 24k mile 2007/57 M Sport cabrio; quoted £2,000 ro replace. Could be that ECU Testing can help.
14-8-2013: EPS failure reported on 50k mile 2007/57 320i. Quoted £1,800 + £600 labour to replace. BMW cut the price of the part to £900.
25-9-2013: Reported that Bosch ABS modules are failing after about 6 years at £1,600 + labour. Possible that they can be repaired by http://www.ecutesting.com, or by http://www.bba-reman.com.
4-10-2013: Diary of an ABS/ESP module repair that resulted in a saving of £1,700: On a 2007 E92 BMW 325 coupe the ABS warning light came on. The ABS system has a speed sensor at each wheel and the main unit, which has three parts. The metal manifold with the brake pipe to each wheel and the servo, the electronic control unit ECU and a Motor/pump. BMW can supply a new ECU for £940 inch vat or the whole unit with the three parts for £1850 incl vat. It takes about 1 hour to remove the unit and 2 hours to fit the new whole unit and bleed the brakes, which is a two man job - thus the labor cost will be around £300 + some brake fluid - total cost £2170. Another option is to send the ABS unit to a specialist repairer as recommended by Honest John (http://www.ecutesting.com or http://www.bba-reman.com) who will charge between £250 and £500 to repair the unit (if it can be repaired - not always possible) and post it back. This will take from 4 days to a week but save a lot of money. Since the car cannot be moved with no ABS/ESP module it's best to find a Mobile Mechanic or AutoElectrician to remove the old unit at your house, then re-fit it when it comes back (http://www.yell.com). Postage cost £25 including £500 insurance. Reader who tried this got a text at 9.02 the following morning from the repairer to say that the unit had arrived safely and they would test it and let me know if they could repair it and the cost. This turned out to be £195 + postage back + vat = £250. Then autoelectrcian charged me £200 for 3 hours labour so the total cost was:- Unit repair £250, postage £25, Labour £175, brake fluid £20, Total: £470. The saving was £1,700.
28-11-2013: 92k mile 2006 335i needed six new injectors at a total cost of £1,994.
1-1-2014: Problem of cracked wheels with rim sizes of 18" or more on cars 5 years old or more continues, with tyres losing pressure and the only solution a replacement set of wheels.
12-1-2014: DPF failure reported on 120k mile 2006 BMW 320d. Not yet known if Ceramex or Terraclean will successfully revive it.
13-1-2014: 335i DCTs can develop a small oil leak from a transmission oil seal. Small, inexpensive part, but a big expensive job removing the engine/transmission to replace it.
5-4-2014: On 36k mile 2006 BMW 318i steering lock warning light came on and engine would not start unless steering wheel was wiggled. Dealer diagnoese need for new steering column at £500. Independents seai there was a software fix at about £100.
19-5-2014: Engine oil level rise reported in 72k mile 2008 BMW 320d. This happened after average daily runs of 14 miles each way followed by a longer run on which fuel economy dropped due to active regeneration of DPF, but too much fuel was introduced to the engine. Oil and filter change recommended.
22-9-2014: Strange case of engine of BMW 3 Series E90 320i losing power and going into limp home mode when the traction control is on. Thought to be rear driveshaft related.
4-11-2014: Cracked rear alloys reported on 2009 BMW 320d Touring (presumed to be 18"). Good time to remind all E90 - E93 BMW 3-Series owners with 18" or 19" wheels to get them checked for cracks. Could save your life.
Recalls
28-11-2006 R/2006/207 BMW1 SERIES AND 3 SERIES possible loss of braking power assistance build dates 04-03-2006 to 14-03-2006
May 2007 TSB: SI B 61 28 06 General Electrical Systems May 2007 Technical Service. This Service Information bulletin supersedes S.I. B61 28 06 dated January 2006. [NEW] designates changes to this revision SUBJECT: ELV Warning in Instrument Cluster MODEL E90, E91, E92 (3 Series) E60, E61 (5 Series) E63, E64 (6 Series). SITUATION: The ELV (Electronic Steering Lock) check control warning illuminates in the instrument cluster and in some cases, engine start is inhibited. Diagnostics reveals fault code A0AA in the CAS (Car Access System) and prompts a control unit replacement. CAUSE: Low voltages in the vehicle electrical system when cranking/starting the engine. PROCEDURE [NEW]: This problem has been integrated into DIS diagnostics. Follow diagnostics and relevant test plan using DIS V49.0 or later.
April 2008: Recall on official fitted folding towbar. Cables chafe and cause a general electrical problem. 22-10-2008: TSB recall notice to keepers of post September 2007 325i models: "As part of our ongoing quality analysis at BMW it has been established that the injector of the fuel injector system might fail causing poor engine and lack of power on your vehicle."
22-10-2008: TSB recall notice to keepers of post September 2007 325i models: "As part of our ongoing quality analysis at BMW it has been established that the injector of the fuel injector system might fail causing poor engine and lack of power on your vehicle."
30-06-2009 R/2009/065 BMW 1 Series & 3 Series front side airbag or seat belt tensioner may not operate correctly build dates 23/05/2008 - 21/07/2008
26-10-2010: Woodcliff Lake, NJ: BMW of North America has notified the US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) of its intent to conduct a voluntary recall of some model year 2007-2010 BMWs equipped with twin-turbo inline six-cylinder engines, all of which feature BMW’s High Precision Injection direct fuel injection system. It has also asked for approval from the California Air Resources Board to conduct this action. Affected vehicles may experience a failure of the high-pressure fuel pump. Symptoms include long-crank engine starting times along with the illumination of the “Service Engine Soon” light. In certain cases, the driver may experience reduced engine performance in a Safe Mode accompanied by a tone and the illumination of the “Engine Malfunction” light. Based on the individual service history of the vehicle, the action will entail replacement of the high-pressure fuel pump and/or a software update. Approximately 130,000 vehicles are potentially affected with about 40,000 expected to require a new high pressure fuel pump. Affected BMW models include, MY 2007–2010 335i models, MY 2008–2010 135i, 535i and X6 xDrive35i Sports Activity Coupes, MY 2009 – 2010 Z4 Roadster sDrive35i. In a separate action, BMW has notified the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) that it will voluntarily recall approximately 20,800 MY 2008 X5 Sports Activity Vehicles equipped with normally-aspirated inline six-cylinder engines to replace the low-pressure fuel pump. In this case, should the fuel pump experience a failure, the engine will stop running and the driver will lose power assist for the steering and brakes although both the steering and the brakes remain operational.
15-4-2014: Worldwide recall of 489,000 BMW cars with six-cylinder 2.5 and 3.0 litre petrol engines of which less than 3,000 are in the UK. These are: N51 (1991-1995), N52 (from 2005) and the N55 6-cylinder petrol turbo (from 2009). The screws for the housing of the adjustment unit of the variable camshaft timing (Vanos) for the intake and exhaust camshafts could potentially become loose or break. An engine warning lamp ‘should ’ appear in such circumstances, but if drivers experience any loss of power they should contact their BMW dealer immediately.
28-7-2014: R/2014/068 BMW 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, X1, X3, X5, Z4 Build Dates 1-9-2009 to 30-11-2011: Concern : ENGINE EMERGENCY MODE MAY BE ACTIVATED DURING DRIVING Description : The screws retaining the variable camshaft timing (VANOS) housing may loosen and under certain circumstances the heads may break off. This can lead to the VANOS leaking oil internally and adversely affect the valve timing adjustment. If found to deviating from targeted data the engine emergency mode will be activated. This will be indicated by a distinct change in engine running. The orange engine management warning lamp and a check message; On vehicles with N51/N52 engines this will appear at ignition recycle, on N55 engine it will display immediately. Remedial Action : Replace bolted connection of the VANOS adjustment unit.

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Ivane, ti ili si lud, ili se pravis lud ili si samo bezobrazan, tako da smo zavrsili.
ADrei napisao:2.0TDi CR ima problem sa diznama?
ja moram da priznam da to prvi put cujem :)
plivajuci zamajac ume da pravi problem..


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Poslednja izmena od Laki021 u 05 Nov 2014, 16:05, izmenjeno 1 put ukupno.
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Odose foke :)
Brzine idu u H-a !!!

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Laki ti se ocigledno pravis lud ili si samo bezobrazan, jer ne mogu da verujem da si glup da posle nekoliko spominjanja da 2.0tdi CR u a4 b8 nema nikakve veze sa 2.0tdi PD u passatu b6 do 2008, a4 b7, a3 i drugih vagova tih godina, posle svega toga ti kao argument protiv 2.0tdi CR dajes opet link za 2.0tdi PD.



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botr napisao:Sam postavljac teme kaze da trenutno dobro zaradjuje, ali to lako moze da se promeni, kao i sve kod nas. Dakle, u jednom trenutku bi izdvajanje vece sume novca za njega mogao biti ozbiljan problem. Shodno tome, treba da bude upoznat sa potencijalnim, cestim, kvarovima doticnog modela, a njegova je stvar da li je taj rizik njemu prihvatljiv ili ne.

Prica u fazonu hiljadu evra za lanac ili koji god deo nije nista, kod nas ne pije vodu, posebno ako za auto izdvajas (skoro) sve sto imas, sto je tipicno srpski :) Da vidi komsija kaki auto teram.
Dobra zarada u Srbiji za mene znaci cifra reda velicine 1.5k-2k evra (iznad te cifre bih rekao da je odlicna zarada)
Hiljadu-dve evra u tom slucaju (uz momacki zivot iliti bez nekih velikih obaveza) i nije neka katastrofa ako treba da se izdvoji kao "worst-case scenario". Jbg, zato i kosta vise nego duplo manje od novog auta.
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Apsolutno.

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Aj Delija ne zezaj da bi tvog novog Civica menjao za neku kantu staru 5 godina sa 150k km, koju je vozio ko zna kako, samo zato što je veća klasa.
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Naravno da ne bih. Zato sam i rekao da za tu cifru ne moze da se kupi nista sto valja.
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Pa naravno da ne može.
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Niko nista ne poklanja. Sve vredi tacno (ili vrlo blizu) onoliko koliko kosta.
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Ne znam ko kupuje onda te silne 320d e90, pricate kao da svaki crkava cim ga kupis a da vlasnici moraju da imaju barem 5k sa strane :glavomuzid:

Drugarov cale vozi trenuto 320d 2005,presao 230k km, znam jedino da mu je crkao alternator valjda u zadnjh godinu dana (uzeo ga sa oko 200kkm) bas cu da kazem ortaku da pogleda knjizicu da li je nesto bitno radjeno na kolima,jer je kupljen u radulovicu

A i naravno da je logicno imati sa strane ostavljeno nesto novca (10% recimo), bez obzira koji je auto u pitanju.
Poenta je da mislim da preterujete, niko me nece ubediti da od lupam 30 E90 FL koji su te cene nijedan ne valja. Lepo ocuvan auto + dobar pregled od strane mehanicara prilicno smanjuju sansu da dodje do nekih ogromnih troskova
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:plusone:

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